1: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 16:37:02.56 0.net
°C-ute’s Nakajima Saki: “I got to experience it all; both the good and the bad times.“
10: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 16:40:00.70 0.net
This must be something that could only be felt by someone who has a decade of experience behind them.
3: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 16:38:22.15 0.net
Five years isn’t too soon at all. If anything, ten years is an abnormally long time to be an idol.
17: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 16:42:29.33 0.net
The problem is the soul-draining handshake events. It’s a different time now.
65: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 17:02:42.95 0.net
Fish in tiger’s clothing.
31: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 16:46:08.67 0.net
In the article, Nakajima talks about how the early period for a group is when everyone is getting angry at these newcomers and how that’s when their skills are improving the fastest, but that’s not the point. The reason these newer members are quitting so soon is because they lose all hope because of the constant routine of handshake events and having to perform at tiny clubs.
46: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 16:53:49.68 0.net
I agree that quitting after just a year is the same as running away. But five years? That’s more than enough. (laughs) Being an idol for 10 or 15 years is way weirder.
84: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 17:18:04.65 0.net
Two years should be the minimum.
52: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 16:57:36.48 0.net
But if you include their time in the Kenshuusei, most members’ careers are actually quite long. Five years can pass by in the blink of an eye. I think what she’s talking about is the time after their major debut, hence the clashing opinions.
55: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 16:59:33.58 0.net
I suppose she might have a point, considering how members are now leaving H!P faster than there are new ones joining in.
67: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 17:04:07.75 0.net
What she’s basically saying is: it’s only after five years in this line of work that it really gets enjoyable, so you need to just bear it until then. Nacky is someone who truly takes pride in her work.
90: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 17:20:32.67 0.net
Well said, Nacky. Her words have weight behind them.
114: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 17:59:01.14 0.net
As a Country oshi, these words make me cry.
Thank you, Nacky.
112: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 17:57:49.78 0.net
But… futsuu idol 10nen yatterannai desho?
82: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 17:16:04.64 0.net
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being an idol for five years and then graduating once you’ve discovered through that experience what it is that you really want to do in life.
68: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 17:05:50.50 0.net
It’s completely different though being a member for five years starting from when you’re in elementary school — like the Kids — versus five years starting from when you’re in high school.
115: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 17:59:34.56 0.net
Ichioka is debuting as a third year high school student… There’s no way she’s going to be an idol for five years.
117: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 18:00:46.70 0.net
If Meguu had remained a member for five years after their major debut, I bet °C-ute as a group would’ve turned out completely different.
126: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 18:05:49.85 0.net
Thing is though that the Kids along with the 5th and 6th gens were still basking in the afterglow of the Golden Era when they debuted, so they were constantly appearing on nationwide TV shows. It’s a completely different environment for the girls these days.
136: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 18:14:23.40 0.net
°C-ute didn’t have to be doing handshake events when they were in their teens. I hate people who make thoughtless statements like this.
139: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 18:15:32.54 0.net
Yes they did.
387: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 21:22:44.97 0.net
Dissing Fukuda Asuka.
129: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 18:07:24.85 0.net
I don’t think she’s criticizing anyone. She just wants to convey to her juniors something she felt through her own activities. She’s saying that while it’s fine to have other dreams, there’s also value in seeing what lies at the end of a longer road. That was Nacky’s message.
100: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 17:52:01.39 0.net
It often happens that once you join a new company, you soon find that the work was different from what you’d been expecting.
226: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 18:58:01.14 0.net
I’d guess nine out of ten, the members who quit will later come to regret that decision when they discover how harsh it is to be working at a regular company.
284: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 19:55:29.00 0.net
Tsunku, too, was saying that when you quit, that’s the end of the game for you.
304: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 20:06:41.92 O.net
Not losing. Not giving up. Not running away. Believing in yourself.
Those are the most important things to do when things are looking bleak.
361: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 21:03:31.94 0.net
Nacky and Maimi-chan may sometimes say harsh things, but they’re also insanely important things. I gained so much strength from this blog post by Maimi:
I can’t promise you that your dreams will always come true even if you keep working towards achieving them. But when things aren’t going great and you give up, then that dream of yours will certainly not come true.
It’s easy to run away.
But if you run away, you’ll never know what would’ve happened next…
That’s just one of the things I was thinking about, reading Hama-chan’s interview. I bet lots of people received strength from reading her interview. Of course, I also don’t believe it’s right for me to tell someone “don’t run away!” when they’re in a tough situation — it’s their life after all. But I do wish for everyone to lead a life they won’t end up regretting.
234: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/06/08(木) 19:03:16.10 0.net
Wada: “If it’s Nakajima-san saying so… then I’ll keep going until I’m 30!”
2. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2017年06月08日 23:06 id：IVmmoVc10
This is a message from one senior to her juniors: things might be difficult right now and you might be in a bad place, but there are some things you will only be able to see if you keep at it. Compared to other idol agencies, H!P lets their stay keep active for a relatively long time, so there are lots of chances to regain your strength as you keep going. (Although there are of course various different reasons that people might quit.) I hope her juniors take Nakajima-senpai’s words to heart.
3. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2017年06月08日 23:11 id：yX82BMYs0
I don’t know if this applies to every group, but at least in °C-ute’s case, I’d bet they had more fun in their last five years compared to their first five years, right? In the beginning, their fans were just this bunch of middle-aged men but then, gradually, their fan base got younger and younger. They got to experience the stages they were performing on getting bigger and bigger. They even got to go perform overseas. This is all stuff they wouldn’t have gotten to experience had they only lasted for five years. I definitely get the members of °C all feeling the way Nacky phrased it.
4. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2017年06月08日 23:22 id：f9.a7njB0
°C-ute got teased for how Berryz got to go on Utaban and they didn’t. They had to keep at it for a long time before they got their acknowledgement.
7. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2017年06月08日 23:29 id：VnnvthTH0
I feel ashamed of myself for quitting four days after starting at a company.
23. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2017年06月09日 04:20 id：XTuQrfYO0
People tend to forget this, but this job might not be suited to someone who dislikes constantly having to travel all over the country.
11. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2017年06月09日 00:02 id：1ZYEhVLD0
°C-ute have been idols for, what, 15 years? Thinking about it from a fan’s perspective and setting aside the idols’ personal values and all that aside for a moment…
I wonder just how many people they saved in these last 15 years? Not every job gives you the opportunity of influencing other people to this extent. I was personally saved by the idol known as Nakajima Saki. I don’t believe I’ll ever come across someone like her again.
To the girls themselves… Tsugunaga the pro said it herself: “Idols aren’t allowed to do some of the things ordinary people can. But the number of things we can do which ordinary people can’t is much higher. That’s why I’m happy to be an idol.” I think this is what Nacky wants to say. As long as you don’t give up and you keep going forward on the path you’re on, you’ll get to see things you otherwise couldn’t. She’s saying that throwing away that privilege you’ve been given is a waste. There are so many people who never get to have that privilege.
Am I wrong? Well, even if I am, it doesn’t change the fact that Nakajima Saki worked hard up until now. She devoted her youth to us, so I wish people didn’t slander her. You shouldn’t make light of Nacky, not after all she’s done.
26. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2017年06月09日 07:45 id：.eeZj4.z0
The thing with H!P these days is that you can see the trajectory of your career, from your debut until your retirement. You’ll be spending every day shaking hands and performing at tiny venues. No matter how hard you work, Budokan is as far as you’ll ever go. They can’t dream big. If the office itself doesn’t change the way it operates, the girls are going to keep quitting.
28. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2017年06月09日 08:35 id：2O0nSWLS0
It must be a difficult line of work for people who have lots of dislikes. Even Nakajima is hopelessly shy, and yet she really did her best. There’s must’ve been so much about the job she didn’t like.
34. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2017年06月09日 14:06 id：OCIlkdP70
The fact that it’s an active H!P member saying something like this must mean it’s a pretty decent company to work for.
5. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2017年06月08日 23:24 id：reoEucQK0
It’s only once you grow up that you realize how hard it really is to keep doing one thing for an extended period of time. I’m going to remember Nacky’s words the next time I’m feeling down.