1：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:39:00.65 ID:0
Tsunku on Young Town:
“The members of Hello! Project are an extension of myself.”
“What I can’t realistically do in 24 hours myself, they do for me.”
“Hello! Project is a production, not a product.”
“Their parents entrusted them to me. That makes them equal to my own daughters. I could not see them in “that” way.“
2：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:39:29.20 ID:0
That’s Tsunku for you.
5：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:40:11.55 ID:0
And on the other side there’s Akimoto Yasushi who built himself a harem.
11：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:42:29.57 ID:0
Tsunku’s such a good person compared to Akimoto. Akimoto cares about nothing else but success.
13：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:43:20.39 ID:0
This is the one thing I can praise Terada for. (laughs)
14：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:43:23.16 ID:0
Akimoto
- The members are a product
- Thinks of the members as objects romantic interest
- Dirty old man
Tsunku
- The members are a production
- Would never think of the members as objects of romantic interest
- Cool old man
19：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:44:59.28 ID:0
>>14
Akimoto
→ Married a member.
Tsunku
→ Had an arranged marriage with a woman to whom he was introduced by a friend.
22：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:45:43.96 ID:P
It’s pretty incredible how he went for an arranged marriage even with so many beautiful girls all around him.
27：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:47:17.01 ID:0
I’m no Terada fan, but this is the one thing I give him credit for.
29：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:47:23.54 ID:0
It’s probably faster to ask if there are any Onyanko members Akimoto didn’t fuck.
39：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:49:10.53 ID:0an
>>1
As expected of Tsunku. I’d like Komuro, Kobatake or Akipig to hear those words.
>>29
Nitta Eri revealed that although Akipig tried coming on to her, she managed to get away.
53：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:51:20.66 ID:0
>>39
He probably fucked all of them basically.
Wasn’t their songwriter Goto this brute lolicon type, too?
33：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:47:44.41 ID:0
It’s a known fact that Akimoto put his hands on Onyanko members.
38：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:48:58.05 ID:0
This must piss off the Akipig fanatics.
41：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:49:52.53 ID:0
Tsunku’s most touching words for me was when that male transvestite sold the story about having had sex with Tsunku, and Tsunku had then later said to him: “You fool… I would have always held you like a woman.“
52：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:51:15.01 ID:0
>>41
I think I remember him making fun of that story on some radio appearance.
56：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:51:37.41 ID:0
>>41
No, he said: “Out of all the girls I’ve had sex with, you were the cutest or second cutest of them all!!“
(TL note: Apparently this really was once reported by Friday or some other gossip mag. I’m unable to find exact information as to when the rumor first got out but it was years and years ago, predating Morning Musume.)
43：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:50:08.42 ID:0
Terada is somewhat of a fool, but he’s a good person.
44：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:50:15.97 ID:0
Are you saying there’s someone even in AKB who Akipig hasn’t fucked?
50：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:51:07.03 ID:0
>>44
I’m thinking even Akimoto wouldn’t put his hands on the junior high school students or younger.
46：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:50:16.97 ID:O
I’ll be honest: I respect the guy.
67：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:53:38.92 ID:0
To Akimoto, rather than an “extension of himself“, AKB must feel more like a sex doll.
68：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:53:48.78 ID:0
He’s a male and that of course comes with limitations as to what he can express by himself; the girls of H!P do for him what he himself can not. I’m starting to turn into a Terada fanatic…
79：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:55:47.19 ID:0
All this time I thought we were cheering on cute girls, but it turns out we were actually cheering on an extension of Terada.
80：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:55:54.85 ID:0
But Tsunku’s wife is ridiculously beautiful, and she comes from a good family, too. That must make even Akipig jealous. (laughs)
81：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:55:55.82 ID:0
85：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:56:15.66 ID:0
H!P’s members are like female speakers through which Tsunku can sing.
91：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:56:59.67 ID:0
Tsunku’s a guy who’s somehow been able to express himself both as the front man of a band as well as a female idol.
99：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 02:57:55.64 ID:0
Well, Matsumoto Takahashi disclosed the case of Akipig trying to coerce Yuuki Nae into sleeping with him. When she declined, he made her a target of bashing. Any human with some some sense knows better than to trust a pig like that. Well, everyone aside from Dentsu. (laughs)
211：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:17:09.20 ID:0
>>99
Yeah, but Dentsu is the problem…
127：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:03:33.89 ID:0
In Akimoto Yasushi’s case, that’s what was his goal to begin with when he became an idol producer. Unlike Terada, he knows nothing about music and such.
129：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:03:51.21 ID:0
At least Goto’s a cool looking guy so the women will come to him without having to resort to coercion (Hori Chiemi for example). No one would approach Akipig if he didn’t hold any authority over them. I mean, his looks are on the level of Ijuuin Hikaru.
155：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:06:50.64 ID:O
>>129
Isn’t he worse than Ijuuin Hikaru? Judging purely on looks, he looks like your everyday gross wota.
130：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:03:54.87 ID:O
Tsunku is a fool, but he’s not a bad person. Plus, Tsunku probably holds no real power.
139：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:05:17.36 ID:0
People who rose up in the world using their own strength are just something else. I like Sharan Q, I was in elementary school during the Musume Golden Era, and now that I’m once again looking forward to what Musume does, it feels like a part of that is because I can trust Tsunku P. Rather than a creator or a producer, he might be closer to an author.
147：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:05:58.06 ID:0
I respect him just a tiny little bit.
157：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:07:22.75 ID:0
If anyone slept with Terada, they’d probably feel a sense of superiority about it. Not to say that anyone else would want to sleep with Terada, but they’d probably feel jealous anyway.
165：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:08:06.84 ID:0
It does feel like he doesn’t think of them as more than a production.
168：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:08:46.10 ID:0
I really like Tsunku’s lyrics. He’s a really good match for my own personal values.
178：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:10:22.65 ID:0
Terada must be in high spirits for scoring an already pretty accomplished singing machine like Sakura.
183：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:11:19.26 ID:0
The words he said about Michishige at her audition: “This one… this one is really interesting. She’s an artist. This girl is a production in herself. I ought to start calling her my master. ‘Master! Thank you very much!’”
184：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:11:46.43 ID:0
The bad thing about Tsunku is his favoritism. You shouldn’t do that to a bunch of girls going through puberty. It’s in contrast compared to Momoclo’s Maeyamada who says he’d never favor someone over the other.
201：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:14:32.56 ID:0
>>184
A bit of favoritism is just right. To Tsunku it would be out of the question to start giving out boring sympathy points and thus lessening the quality of his production.
203：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:14:50.00 ID:0
>>184
A lot of Kansai people are like him. Sanma for example. It’s their form of love, or rather, their way of honesty. I’m not sure if I’m really getting the nuance across…
190：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:12:29.49 ID:0
If he wants to sing women’s songs, he can just make use of the many H!P members he has available. If he wants to sing men’s songs, he can sing them himself. He gets the best of both worlds.
192：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:12:55.12 ID:0
I can give Terada some credit for this.
198：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:14:17.96 ID:0
Tsunku is just a puppet of his office. The only thing Tsunku has command of is the music. That’s the only area where he gets to enjoy being a producer.
206：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:15:59.99 ID:0
Tsunku just wants to sing idol songs as a girl, but his voice and body are that of an old guy, so he has no option but to use the H!P members. That’s all.
213：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:17:17.46 ID:0
He always makes it a point to record all songs with his own demo vocals. I think what that really points to is that he actually wants to be a member of H!P himself — and there are quite some many H!P wota who want the same thing.
221：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:19:04.35 ID:0
It’s obvious that Tsunku is more wholesome on this matter. That’s why he always picks the girls who aren’t quite his type but just a little bit homely-looking.
223：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:19:14.97 ID:0
62 ： 名無し募集中。。。 ： 2012/01/10(火) 20:56:39.74 O
Something that Akimoto Yasushi said when he was a guest on Nakazawa’s ANN:
“I’ve told Tsunku♂ that at some point what he needs to do is to marry one of the Morning Musume girls and be the producer of her life, too.“
428：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 04:27:26.50 ID:0
>>223
What a fantastically low-life, vulgar and coarse statement only a morally bankrupt piece of shit like him could say.
226：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:19:25.87 ID:0
His way of thinking is the polar opposite of Akimoto.
260：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:24:06.09 ID:0
So there are some pigs out there who think putting your hands on your employees is the same thing as “producing their lives“…
264：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:24:33.35 ID:0
>>260
He’s sure got his way with words. So fucking disgusting.
239：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:21:29.93 ID:0
Stop trying to glorify your power abuse by calling it “producing their lives.” (laughs)
231：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:19:46.42 ID:0
The shortcomings of the office are a separate problem. It’s useless to criticize Tsunku about anything except the quality of the songs.
274：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:26:31.46 ID:0
For better or for worse, Terada doesn’t have the kind of fanatics like Akipig does. If they see or hear something that isn’t good, they are quick to say so. That’s different from the blind akekasu who eat up anything Akipig puts out. (laughs)
306：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:35:39.38 ID:0
The fact that his fans are quick to point out his failure comes with both its good things as well as bad things.
312：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:39:09.89 ID:0
Unlike Akimoto, Terada just doesn’t have that much authority.
323：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:46:01.95 ID:0
Tsunku-chan being so easygoing only makes him more trustworthy in my eyes.
400：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 04:10:59.43 ID:0
Tsunku-chan might be easygoing, but he’s dead serious, too.
344：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 03:55:54.93 ID:0
No matter which way you look at it, Tsunku is the better man on this matter. Just because someone likes AKB doesn’t mean that they have to be obstinate enough to think AKB is the best at everything.
359：熊五郎 ◆KQuXvLdrz2 ：2012/09/30(日) 03:59:31.81 ID:0
I think Tsunku’s lying when he’s saying that though. I think he definitely sees them as women. It’s just that he hasn’t done anything with them because he figures it’d probably make him look uncool. And that’s what makes him Tsunku. This is purely just speculation on my part though. (laughs)
396：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 04:10:29.36 ID:0
>>359
He’s like a teacher with a strong sense of ethics. He knows there’s something much more fulfilling than making one of his students his lover.
365：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 04:01:49.93 ID:0
He picks all these girls as young as 12 or 13; that must make him have parental feelings for them, too. Having sex with them when they get older would be such a brutish thing to do.
373：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 04:03:27.79 ID:0
“An extension of myself”
“A production”
“Equal to my daughter”
Don’t all of them sort of contradict each other?
442：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 04:37:57.25 ID:0
>>373
He explained the “extension of myself” thing as something that lets him do the things that he can’t (as a male) do himself, but of course he knows they’re human, too, and being their producer, he feels parental affection towards them as well.
375：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 04:05:04.79 ID:0
It’s a bunch of pretty awful people involved with AKB right now. It’s like the same guys who caused all sort of problems with not only Onyanko Club but also Checkikko and others, all concentrated in one place once again. (laughs)
380：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 04:06:01.56 ID:0
I like Terada as an artist. I can agree with his attitude towards production work.
404：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 04:11:47.44 ID:0
The AKB wota must not know about the time when Tunnels Ishibashi bullied the hell out of Akimoto about his marriage when he was appearing on his radio show. He was just unable to say anything. Anyone who remembers that shamefulness simply wouldn’t be able to call him “Yasusu-sensei” or whatever.
411：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 04:14:26.13 ID:0
I think Okamura’s comment about him says it all. “Ever since that whole Onyanko thing, I’ve never been able to trust Akimoto at all.”
426：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 04:25:33.27 ID:0
Now I’ve started feeling bad for the AKB wota…
456：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 05:26:02.76 ID:O
Maybe I’ll try trusting Tsunku.
470：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 07:05:03.84 ID:0
(Note: the above is a magazine headline about Akimoto and Takai Mamiko’s (ex-Onyanko Club) sudden marriage.)
475：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 09:17:03.29 ID:0
>>470
I wasn’t even born yet when that happened. That must’ve been a shock to the fans at the time.
471：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 07:24:30.81 ID:0
It’s because Akipig does business while seeing the members as sex objects that makes people gather around him. Hell, even I’d become someone’s lap dog if I got to have sex with young girls all the time.
473：名無し募集中。。。：2012/09/30(日) 07:29:00.74 ID:0
>>471
Akimoto is good at grabbing important people by their dicks like that.
Henkka: I wish I was an extension of Tsunku.
Source: http://oha2.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-450.html (jp)
While watching the Tsunclub DVD magazines, you can really feel his parental love for the members. The smile he gets while listening to them tell stories is such a genuine smile.
That’s how I see it. I really do believe that he’s like a kind teacher watching over them.
the amount of hatred towards AKB here is quite sad, at the end of the day you either like H!P or AKB or both there’s nothing wrong with either (^-^).
But i will say this: the comments here to me sound like little more than a group of butt-hurt H!P wota who are winging because AKB CRUSH them in popularity, sales and relevance to the Japanese economy.
It is the H!P board after all. I’m going to go out on a limb and say you’d find the same sort of comments aimed at H!P on the AKB board.
yeah your right of course, Im sure there are AKB fans that are just as bad lol, I mean yeah im alot more AKB than H!P but com’on why can’t we all get along (^-^)
’cause people like you came and goes all “hurrr my group is better guise and more popular huehuahuehua”
“People like you”…only he never said AKB was better than H!P so not only is your post stupid, it is also inaccurate. I don’t like AKB as none of their songs interest me (except the one from Wreck-it Ralph haha) but the hate toward them is really ridiculous and most of the things people talk about are personal attacks that have little to do with the group itself. I never understood why people go out of their way to talk about and constantly put down something they don’t like. Why even give it your energy. You’re not making AKB any less popular or H!P any more popular. It’s like how on every Youtube video or Facebook post someone putting “Still a better love story than Twilight” or “Justin Beiber sucks” on things that have nothing to do with them. Really, get a life. AKB is more popular than H!P. Does that necessarily mean they’re better? No but it’s all subjective. If you’re an AKB fan, great. If you’re an H!P fan, great. If you’re a fan of both, great. Get over it.
They’re not even really hating on AKB though. They’re hating on Akimoto, and specifically stuff that he did with Onyanko Club. AKB’s mentioned like two or three times simply by extension.
One has to give credit to Akimoto for Onyanko Club’s influence in what later became Morning Musume and H!P, but I’ll agree with the japanese wota in the assessment that he’s a fucking pig.
@James: They are bashing Akimoto, not AKB. There’s a difference. This has nothing to do with sales, but with how you treat people who are working for you; how to be a decent human being. If the things said here about Akimoto are true, he’s not merely a pervert but also a rapist by forcing girls to sleep with him as they fear for their careers. And in that case AKB girls are victims not to be blamed or bashed. It’s the worst kind of work place sexual harassment. The fact that there are no rumours like this about Tsunku even from the times when MM was more popular makes it more likely that there is at least some truth to the Akimoto rumours. No fire, no smoke.
On a lighter note, I really like the teacher analogy of 396. I think anyone who’s done even a little bit of teaching or tutoring knows how it is to feel proud when your student shows improvement on some area. Tsunku gets to have that without having to worry about some bully shouting at him, so it’s even better than being an actual teacher, lol.
I still like Tsunku don’t get me wrong, I love his work with Bakusute Sotokanda Icchome (^-^)
and for the record although i love the AKB family, Afilia Saga is BY FAR my favourite idol group!!
Akimoto is a pig indeed, and it’s evident he doesn’t care much for the girls, he just wants to overwork them (don’t caring about their health, see Jurina), pay them the least possible (they don’t earn that much for being the top idols), and the things he said about producing the girl’s life… He’s just the lowest…
It’s funny in that the six years that iv’e been an AKB fan I never botherd to know much about Aki-P.
That’s why you didn’t get it that those comments were bashing Akimoto not AKB girls.
Aki-P is gross and disgusting. I hate him. Since the moment I knew he married a member of her own production, Onyanku Club. He’s such a pervert. What a pitiful person.
To be fair, it’s not that he married a member of Onyaku that’s bothersome. Instead, it’s the fact that he likely is the one that pursued her, which is unprofessional even without the sex and eventual marriage; not sure about Japanese laws, but I do know that’s sexual harassment in the US.
As expected of the boss, now i wanna be like Tsunku when i grow up.
Haha, me too! :-)
tsunku is so awesome
I want to put his big framed photo in my living room
this reminds me of the thread on comparing akip & tsunku
the conclusion is akip is a d*ck and tsunku is a pussy
lolololololol
What’s written in #470?
Whoops, forgot to include it in the post. It’s the scoop of Akimoto and Takai Mamiko’s (ex-Onyanko Club) sudden marriage.
Ah, thank you! :-D
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After reading this, I realized why I always liked Morning Musume more than AKB48 – even though I like these groups both really much. Previously I’ve been thinking that it is because Momusu became top group without dancing in lingerie and acting provocative, like it was in AKB’s “Heavy Rotation”. I understand it, it’s more about their producers.
Akimoto and Tsunku are like characters from a fable: Akimoto is a bad guy, who is very well-known, is very very rich, but thinks only about money and success, and treats the members of his group like a puppets or tools, and thinks only how to use their sexiness to earn more money.
And Tsunku is a poor but good guy, who makes a lot of mistakes, but has a good intentions, and who really do care about members of his group.
Of course, reality may be a bit different, but that’s how I see it.
Like Starks vs. Lannisters.
AKB48 the most overrated piece of ***** in the world. Stop controlling the media and shaving the member’s head, piggy.
And I wish that I’d be Tsunku P’s P.
Recently, there was a doc on TV about Akimoto’s production of an AKB music video. It felt like a bad joke. 24 hours is all Akimoto needed. It tells about the quality.
The girls and staff arrived on the set early in the morning, and Akimoto had not written his lyrics yet. Unbelievable!! The girls kept waiting around the whole day, doing nothing much. The lyrics finally came, really late of course, the choreographers could only start training the girls around midnight, and the shooting started at 3am. The whole thing was baked before sunrise. Then, during editing, Akimoto couldn’t stop complaining, like it was everybody’s fault but his.
After watching this, I felt more sympathy towards the girls. No wonder AKB’s dancing is so lame (compared to HP). It has less to do with the girls’ lack of talent, than the lack of time to try developing it. Tsunku takes at least a couple of weeks to prepare for a single.
No wonder my image of Akimoto went from really really bad to even worse.
Is there a way to watch this documentary? Or what’s its name?
Mamiko Takai.,, now i understand why akipiggu started AKB. he wasn’t trying to cash in again, he just got bored with his currently middle-aged waifu!!
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and as for tsunku’s “daughters”. the wankiest wotas think of them as “daughters” too. :P
Hey hey now! When I was in high school I was following Morning Musume and I was the same age as Ai and Gaki. I thought of them as the ideal friends and loved watching the group perform.
Now that I’m 26 and middle school aged girls are in the group I DO think of them as daughters/little sisters. It just seems so natural. I’m sure that you are talking about the male fans though. But many female fans think the way I do.
Tsunku’s name of his team at Hamonep Star League last year was Tsunku Family Uraomote. To me, that name and the meaning said a lot about the man himself.
Like #396, I felt Tsuku’s like a “Teacher” from the very beginning. More accurately, a “Principal” and H!P is a “School”.
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Wow, I always had the idea of Miya being this unreacheable, popular girl who doesn’t like to touch normal people.
lol, wrong entry xD
I didn’t know about the rumors regarding Akimoto, now I feel kind of sorry for AKB members :/
To be honest I believe Tsunku is gay. Since the first moment I saw him I just had this feeling. Or maybe he is bisexual, in an ycase I think Tsunkucares about the music and he is passionate about his songs, like when he sang koko ni iruze in a performance, you could see his emotions and passion in his signing. I really don’t think he would make a move on the girls.
i love momusu and akb48 both, please be more tolerant, akipig is disgusting, but you all your disgusting and intorelable hate towards akb48 gives hp fans a bad name. idol world is not just hp okay?? gosh! what an inmature little guys are you!
(sorry for bad english)
Did you really need to post on a thread which has been dormant for 23 months?
BTW, your English is fine.