1: 乳首 2015/02/01(日) 18:42:13.07 0.net
Yes, all idol wota are gross, but which of these types is the grossest of them all? By the way, I’m personally into idols because I’m a lolicon, but I like H!P specifically because of their songs.
3: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:43:15.36 0.net
>>1
I have no objection to you receiving the grand prize on this.
2: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:43:00.92 0.net
The “true love” types just like their idols a little bit too much. Nothing wrong with that.
4: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:43:51.73 0.net
For me it’s the “producer” type.
31: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:17:28.24 0.net
How about the ones who just see them as sex objects?
10: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:47:38.67 0.net
I’m not sure what you call them… the “God” type? You know, the holier-than-thou know-it-alls. What the hell is up with those people?
5: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:44:12.90 0.net
The self-appointed critics.
9: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:46:32.89 0.net
You should’ve put “vs. lolicon” in the title, too.
11: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:58:05.05
>>9
All idol wota are lolicon.
14: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:54:26.89 0.net
The “true love” types are only staying true to their feelings, so I think they’re more honest as people. The other two are lying to themselves. With that said: all otaku are disgusting.
29: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:15:50.28 0.net
The “true love” types and “music fan” types get into arguments a lot because they have the exact opposite senses of values. Both of them think of the other as nothing but a piece of trash. But from the idols’ point of view, it’s the “true love” types who are more disgusting. In comparison, there’s probably no harm done to anyone from someone being the “parental” type.
34: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:20:09.87 0.net
I used to be the “true love” type, but ever since my oshi got married, I’ve now become more lukewarm towards all idols in general, only watching them from afar.
35: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:21:25.41 0.net
It’s different for men and women, too. I personally watch them only for the sex appeal by the way. Couldn’t care less about the singing or whatever.
39: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:29:55.59 0.net
The most disgusting types of them all are the guys who claim they just feel “parental love” towards their oshi, when in reality they’re actually busy rubbing one out to them.
38: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:28:59.09 0.net
The guys who imagine they have some chance of making their favorite idol belong to them, those are the ones who become the “true love” type. The ones who don’t, they become the “parental” type.
21. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 20:46 ID:VgbohYX90
I’m the “true love” type, and yet, I don’t think there’s any chance that I could ever make an idol “mine.” I perceive idols as people from another world, and simply thinking “XX-chan is so cute~!” or whatever is enough to make me happy. I don’t feel any need to try to make them “belong to me.”
Yep, I’m gross.
40: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:35:14.48 O.net
Um, the type who pretend like they know it all?
42: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:37:40.85 0.net
>>40
That’s just a variant of the “music fan” type.
44: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:39:23.78 O.net
No, the “pretending like they know it all” isn’t in regards to the music but the idols themselves.
41: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:36:38.18 0.net
It feels to me like the “parental” route is the way to go — many of those guys are even married. The other two lose by a wide margin. (laughs)
52: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 20:03:41.55 0.net
I’m a guy who actually wants to become like the H!P members. I’m okay with being appointed as the grossest type.
47: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:46:37.44 0.net
If I had to pick from these three… I’d say it’s the “music fan” type.
50: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:53:12.24 0.net
The sex appeal is invariably a part of it for each and every wota — it’s the whole essence of idols.
49: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:48:55.57 0.net
I don’t know which type I am…
53: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 20:08:14.64 0.net
>>49
Well, do you love them?
63: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 20:18:36.00 0.net
>>53
I’m not a lesbian, so no. And I don’t aspire to become like them either.
54: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 20:09:05.05 0.net
What is wrong with all of you guys claiming you feel some sort of “parental love” towards them? There’s not a chance in hell you wouldn’t date them if you ever got the opportunity.
66: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 20:20:32.85 0.net
They’re idols, so obviously it’s the sex appeal for me. There would be no idol industry without the sex.
62: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 20:15:39.55 0.net
It’s the “music fan” types who are the grossest of them all, the people on their high horses discussing the songs on Twitter or whatever.
69: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 20:31:03.84 0.net
“I’m a music wota! I judge their music on a neutral basis!” That attitude is so gross.
75: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 22:25:21.11 O.net
>>69
I fail to see why you’d find that attitude to be gross.
76: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 22:54:29.74 0.net
>>75
Well, I don’t know if it’s so much “gross” as it is just fucking irritating.
82: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/02(月) 00:03:56.00 O.net
>>76
Really? For me it isn’t even irritating. I guess I might be unconsciously pissing off people when I’m talking about their music…
73: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 22:24:13.36 O.net
>>1
All three apply to me.
81: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 23:36:25.29 0.net
I guess I’m the “music fan” type. I can’t believe °C actually has fans, what with all their songs being so shitty.
86: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/02(月) 00:26:05.01 0.net
I’m the “music fan” type, too, but for me °C was easily the best group last year, music-wise. Berryz and S/mileage, though, had it so bad I almost feel sorry for them.
88: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/02(月) 02:56:16.92 0.net
I understand the “music fan” types who just regard the songs highly, but what I don’t get are the ones who say that nothing besides the music matters. That just makes me think those people don’t even like idols in the first place.
93: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/02(月) 05:26:30.22 0.net
>>88
Is there something wrong with not liking idols?
91: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/02(月) 05:12:48.59 0.net
I don’t mind the “producer” type, but when it gets to the point where you actually start preaching to the idols about something or the other, whether it be at a handshake event, on the internet, or even indirectly, that’s when it becomes nothing short of an illness. It’s obvious to everyone besides them that these people are just sick.
92: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/02(月) 05:25:13.36 0.net
They’re all gross, but the “music fan” type is maybe just a tiny bit less so than the other two.
33: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:19:54.73 O.net
The grossest are the ones who excessively deify them.
95: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/02(月) 05:56:35.07 0.net
The overall victory on this one goes to the ones who are truly romantically in love with a child.
1. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:16 ID:DHSOGIs10
I can’t help but be the “producer” type, and I even gross myself out for it. But if I was to stop thinking about idols “logically” like I do, I think that’d significantly lessen my overall fascination with them in general. Having all those painfully stupid conversations is part of what makes the idol culture for me. If we lost this aspect, I think many people would drift away from the fandom, and idols in general — as a genre — simply wouldn’t be able to sustain any real level of popularity. H!P especially wouldn’t be nearly as talked about anymore.
3. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:38 ID:2i3zwMAO0
Hardly anyone ever calls the girl wota gross, so this thread isn’t about them. Anyway, for me the grossest wota are the ones who suddenly start going on about how many years they’ve been a wota for when no one even asked them.
5. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:42 ID:nihlLTOB0
I’m the “wants to become Momochi” type.
7. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:48 ID:.Zdc5qD50
The grossest one is the “skill-obsessed” type.
6. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:43 ID:Ei9iWY910
I can kind of understand where all these different types are coming from. I get most of them. The only one I’m unable to comprehend is the “parental” type. (laughs)
2. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:24 ID:likbvWdE0
I can’t help but think of the “parental” thing as nothing more than a convenient word for all the lolicon to hide behind… (laughs)
8. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:49 ID:ltR9iVpTO
Up until recently I could never really grasp the “parental” type either, but now with the advent of Uta-chan, it feels like I might’ve finally gotten it. In short:
“I want to lick her all over” = lolicon
“I want to give her pocket money” = “parental” type
That’s basically the difference, isn’t it?
10. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:52 ID:2bs.K3RmO
For me it feels like I’m cheering on my favorite baseball team.
11. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:52 ID:KbrlALlb0
I would’ve wanted all H!P wota to be the “true love” type…
13. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 15:17 ID:1oVv9JiU0
I enjoy looking at cute girls and getting fired-up at their events. Which genre do I belong in?
9. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:50 ID:KbrlALlb0
Question to the non-“music fan” types… do you really not care about the songs at all?
14. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 15:49 ID:z5aeAj250
I’m a guy, but I genuinely want to become Sayumi. (Not that I want to become a woman — I just respect her as a person.) So that bit about her “strange fans” in her graduation speech was a huge compliment for me. (laughs) I think many H!P wota might actually be the “wanting to become like the members” type (or “projecting your dreams onto them” type).
15. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 16:07 ID:JqopDlPL0
I’m a guy and I do admire them. I’m sorry.
17. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 18:13 ID:FYHYwFaV0
The grossest wota are the ones who start attacking the members just because their hairstyles or sales numbers don’t look quite like what they’d hoped for.
30. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月15日 00:21 ID:nNjcQjfd0
Yes, it’s true that the members of H!P are cute. Still, I would’ve never come to like them this much if it wasn’t for the music, nor would I have remained a fan for this long.
22. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 21:39 ID:J.lB9ELV0
I’m as genuine of an idol wota as one can be. I love 80’s idols, and I think it’s only with the help of thoughtful, original music and lyrics that idols begin to shine — and for me, H!P is the one group who still follows this school of thought, what with Tsunku’s careful compositions and the members’ complete dedication to high-level dancing.
I’m a female so I don’t see them as sex objects, nor am I in love with them. Still, I think I’m probably quite gross.
18. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 19:13 ID:5bQB7PCa0
I initially became a fan because I liked the music, but I then fell in love with Kamei, and later when she graduated I became a DD and turned into the “parental” type. So from my point of view, none of these fan types are gross. Idols offer a little bit of everything for everyone — there’s a place for all kinds of fans. There’s no reason why anyone should have to limit themselves to enjoying idols in only this or that way.
Henkka: I will say one thing: the grosser the wota get, the more fun I have translating their words. And that, unfortunately, probably says more than I’d want it to say about my own grossness.
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Honestly, I’m so weird now when it comes to idols. Usually I’m attracted initially by the music, and sometimes it does just stop there. I’m quite into Passpo’s music, but I couldn’t tell you the name of a single member, or identify any by face. So ostensibly I have to have something, usually a member or two, draw me in further. Again, sometimes here it stops. Bellring Shoujo Heart had Tira, now they don’t. I still like their music, but I saw them live and it was boring as fuck.
On the other side of the coin you have the 48 groups, whose music is 90% throwaway garbage, but I can still identify a lot of members and class some as group “oshi” just because of the surfeit of TV programming they have.
Then in the middle you have H!P, Momoclo, 9nine, Babymetal and a load of the underground idols who draw you in with the music, then you stay because the members invoke strong reactions in you. I don’t think that the gachi-koi types are that prevalent. I know very few wota who are actually in love with their idols to the extent of blocking out “the real world” as it were. But gachi-koi is definitely the grossest.
I’m a big fan of unique performance, and Momusu definitely qualifies. They are so talented – dancing and singing with vigor while keeping a cute image the whole time. That’s a feat! And the fact that most are still in school makes it even more impressive. So I like them on a respect level.
Idols have their finger on the pulse of what’s cool. One could even say they drive the cool train. That makes them powerful – especially in such a masochistic country as Japan.
Idols embody youth and energy. I’m in my mid-30s, my youth is fading. As is my energy, on a less severe degree. But their music picks me up and recharges me. It just makes me happy to see and hear them. I stick to things that make me happy, avoiding the drama and negativity of idols. I stress enough about politics and environmental issues and such. Idols are my happy time.
I don’t view idols on a romantic level, or an OMG level. Maybe a bit of an older-sibling perspective. Maa-chan is my favorite. She’s not the cutest, but she’s a crazy genius. Riho I like for her high level of skill; Kudo I like for her ernest nature and her beauty despite the ikeman persona. But I like all the gen 9-11 girls – admittedly, Fuku-chan the least.
When I’ve been to handshake events, I’m not freaking out. I’m happy to see them, to be in the moment. It may be because I’m not a stranger to famous people and I have performed a lot myself. Or because I don’t want to be them or bed them.
Sorry for the long post, but I feel I have a healthy relationship with idols and wanted to share.
“73. All three apply to me.”
OK, that is pretty gross.
Y’know. I never considered myself “Gross” for being a wota (If I even qualify). I have plenty of other claims to grossness. I personally feel Idols are girls who can give a face to dream-people. Like…”I’d like a wife like is like so and so….Oh, hey this girl kind of qualifies.” I’ll be the first to admit I fap to them as well though. I also use them as basis for the characters I’m writing, as I don’t get out much, so I write about hyperviolent J-Pop Idols. Mostly because it amuses me.
But to answer the original question.
Wouldn’t the grossest wota be Shiwasu no Okina, the author of Shining Musume?
You should check out Zekkyousuru 60do’s Montero, an actually hyperviolent idol.
That’s…That’s not exactly what I had in mind. Cool though, will readmore about her later. To give you an idea, the last thing I worked on is : http://www.lulu.com/shop/gabriel-miller/oshino-yuki-undercover-idol-1/ebook/product-22029554.html (If that Link’s not cool with you, Henkka. Sorry!)
And I am now working on M0M0-CHI. (Model 0, Make 0, Cybernetic Hydraulic Idol). It doesn’t have to make sense if it’s fun to read!
I’m parental type fan. Meimei parent to be exact. Like I want to be Meimei’s papa.
Just admit if your real intention is you want to take a bath with her
I don’t get how being most interested in the music is gross. Maybe that’s just because I’m that type, lol. Music is a great passion in my life.
“86: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/02(月) 00:26:05.01 0.net
I’m the “music fan” type, too, but for me °C was easily the best group last year, music-wise. Berryz and S/mileage, though, had it so bad I almost feel sorry for them.”
^this one has really bad taste.
The ones who only like idols for the sex appeal are the grossest imo.
I really dislike the ones that are after the sexappeal. I mean it’s ok once the girls reach a certain age when they understand why they’re posing in bikini and stuff and when they don’t look like little children anymore. Fapping to anyone who looks like a child is gross – and age of consent is bullshit. If the girl looks like a child it’s pedophilia.
Other than that, I agree with 17 a lot:
“17. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 18:13 ID:FYHYwFaV0
The grossest wota are the ones who start attacking the members just because their hairstyles or sales numbers don’t look quite like what they’d hoped for.”
Myself, I’m a … transforming wota? When I first found MM I was like 12, with no idea about sexuality and stuff. I kinda got into it for the music, around that time 4th gen just joined. I stayed for the girls, I wanted to be like them and I wanted to become their friends.
Now I’m older than all of H!P, and with that electronic music I can’t say I’m into it for the songs anymore. Why do I keep looking for them? I guess I’m still into the girls. I care more about the energy on stage than for costumes, I like it when the girls have fun. I’m not even much into collecting photos. What am I? Still a music/performance wota? lol.
Quote:
“If the girl looks like a child it’s pedophilia. ”
I honestly do get where you are coming from but you are wrong, most probably from having been fed misinformation by the media, and saying it’s pedophilia is utterly wrong, and an insult to many wota.
Pedophilia is ONLY the primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children
The closest you can get with H!P Idols would be Hebephilia which the primary or exclusive adult sexual interest in pubescent individuals approximately 11-14 years old, or ephebophilia, which is the primary or exclusive sexual attraction to those in later adolescence, approximately 15-19 years old.
(b.t.w. i am not getting at you at all or trying to start a flamewar, I am just trying to correct some misinformation that most people have)
Personally, I am not sure who I would classify as the grossest type, as I don’t see being a fan of Idols as gross in any way.
If I had to call it, I’d call the active haters gross (like anti AKB’ers or anti H!P’ers for instance), as they are trying to stop someone from enjoying something that gives them pleasure, and makes their life happier.
Good point. I still think Hebephilia is gross. Ephebophilia, well, I can kind of get this, since many girls that age already developed adult-like features. But seeing people over there at H!O who are like “I want to see 12th gen’s cleavage” just creep me out.
“I want to see 12th gen’s cleavage”.
That doesn’t creep me out as much as it baffles me. At that age, what is to see???
unless you’re talking about peeps like nakadashi-kun, you can BTFO, SJW!
Not the 12th Gen, u idiot! I’m going after Fukuchan. For obvious reasons. Unlike u, I don’t fuck the pussies of nor kiss the (non-existent) breasts of children,…by children I meant very VERY young girls. Now, THAT is PAEDOPHILIA!
So.. Momo and Captain can never get married?… D:
Not the grossest but the wotas who should just disappear are the “know-it-alls”. Also the anti’s and bashers should just perish.
Hmmm I guess I’m a mixture of “parental and music” fan but leaning towards more to music. I feel nothing romantically or sexually for anyone in H!P. Everyone in H!P (except Captain) is younger than me so I only see them like little sisters or something. But even that is kind of stretching it for me. For me to even care about an Idol group I need to like the music first. Even if a group has members with the funniest personalities or has the most “beautiful idols ever”, if I don’t like the music, I’m not gonna care about the group at all.
I think wotas who like idols only for sexual reasons are the grossest ones, especially when they’re under 18.
I’m parental towards the young ones, I’m “please marry me” towards those my age and up
So.. You’re going for Nakazawa Yuko-san?
I like Maachan, but I want to become Riho.
Since I’m playing instruments, I follow only H!P for the idol scene because I think the other idol music sucks(except Baby metal & Perfume+KPP). Please identify me.
I guess you could classify as a “look-up-to-idol” type? :) Seeing you want to become Riho (who is known as a hardworking, very cool-on-stage idol) this kind of makes sense.
aitor is that you?
I’m in H!O, but no, I’m not aitor.
I never understood why being an idol fan is creepy by default, even if you care more about the girls than the music. To like someone is something pure and fantastic. Their presence makes us happy, we feel worried when they’re going through bad times and a single one of their smiles can brighten up our days. Why is this automatically linked to sexual interest when they are two separate things? Sure, if you like someone there’s obviously a damn good chance you wouldn’t mind reproducing with them but that is a different story. When I see my favorite idol I just think “She’s so cute, lemme hug her~!” but nothing sexual crosses my mind. If you walk into a club and see a hot women you’d like to bang do you actually like her? Hell no, you’re just aroused. Again, love is different and innocent in nature and to truly care for another person should never be looked down upon. That said, I am certain there are plenty of wota who do see them as nothing more than fap material and those would be the ones I’d consider most creepy.
I’ll feel gross and creepy if by chance other people will see me. you can’t avoid the activities of browsing through their pictures that (most often) oozes with bikini shots and suggestive appeal, or watching their videos that either is dancing on shortest skirts or sexy-ish/mature content despite being so young and having childlike faces. Reading their blogs in succession that it feels almost like stalking, full of their selfies and other girlfriends being so touchy close in pics to the point it might seem disturbing to have excessive exposure on such images. I’m a girl. Sometimes it seemed I am so lesbian.
In reality, idols are portrayed this way. even you don’t feel so yourself, it is gross by default.
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#81 knows what’s up
i am first stumbling at idol world when i’m browsing music from outside my country, so basically i used to be “music fan type”, but then i took an arrow in the knee,,
no seriously then i discover about idol world and then i fall in love with member that slightly older or around same age with me, with new much younger member now, now seems like watching my younger sisters ,not parental yet because maybe i’m not that old XD,,
i guess i’m a music type. the “parentals who want to commit incest” types on H!O think i’m gross and not wota enough
I think that no matter what activity you do there will be some other people who will consider it gross.
yea, basically dad,son and donkey story, you can’t pleasing all people,,
Word.
Well, when it comes to me, it’s hard to explain. My best friend introduced Buono! to me in 2009, so now I’m a HP fan. Being a woman, I do not feel any attraction to the girls. At the start, I liked Morning Musume very much. I liked them for their music, but also for their personalities. Tanaka-san, Michishige-San, Kamei-san, Niigaki-san, Ai-chan…they were very inspiring to me. They were really my “Idols”. Since they are all older than me, I saw them as older sisters, models of life, as examples to follow. Then, Momusu changed. Now the members are all younger than me. The feeling changed too, but I never stopped to support them. I feel like the members now are like younger sisters, for which I cheer on and watch them grow. Now I really like Fukumura-san, Iikubo-san, Ishida-san, Oda-san and Kuudo-san, but in general I think all the members are pretty cool. Now, however, the group that appeals to me the most is C-ute. I am a huge fan of Yajima-san. Yajima-san has a strong and positive character, so I admire her. Since Yajima-san and I are the same age, she is like a “benchmark” for me. I don’t know how to explain this… it’s a feeling like “since Yajima-san is able to do this, I should too!”. She motivates me, in a way. She is a good dancer and singer, really her songs are the best. Even if Suzuki Airi-san is two years younger than me, I feel like she’s a “rival” to me. She is so young but she is so cute, beautiful, has a strong character and an astonishing voice. It makes me feel like I should work harder in order not to lose to her shining image, even if that is impossible. However, Suzuki-san really motivates me as well. Maybe this will sound foolish to you…. but in the end I think I am the parental type right? Well, I know I am gross anyway XD
i always thought c-ute girl fans are gross even since suzuki airi hugged that french gal
I used to be the “parental” type when I first got into idol fandom back in 2009. But now that my favorite girls, namely the members of Berryz Kobo and C-ute, have grown into young women, my fascination with them has become more sexual in nature. The fact that I’m a lot closer in age to their parents, than to the idols themselves, probably makes me look gross to some people. Funny thing is, even back when I was still the “parental” type, I kinda knew that I would feel sexually attracted to some of the girls later on in the future.
I’m pretty sure every type of wota is at least a little bit gross in some way or another. But that’s what makes us wota, and we should be proud of that.
To be honest, I’m not entirely sure what type I am. Maybe I’m a “music fan” type since my first focus is (and always has been) the music with the other intricacies coming later. (The fact my exposure to H!P came in my late tween/early teen years (2002/2003) and was primarily auditory until late in my Junior year of high school (2007) might have something to do with it.)
Regardless, it takes all kinds of fans to create a fandom, even the wota who become “swollen” at the sight of idols.
(As for as self-consciousness towards the perception of grossness, Japanese idols isn’t the strangest of my interests. I’m somewhat known for my weird interests anyway. XD)
I agree with #22. 80’s idols are the reason I got into j-pop in the first place, and H!P is the only idol conglomerate that still follows that style. That is what defines idols to me and I find it impossible to like other idol groups for that reason -and trust me, I’ve tried-.
I see a lot very long explanations in here about why you guys aren’t gross.
Well I just have one thing to say to you: Lolicons! You’re all Lolicons!
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Haha, I’m just trolling.
I think more people are taking this thread seriously than they should. After all, the TC is ignoring all females and their opinion how they feel about their idols.
I’m a fan because hp members are so cute they make me feel all happy and fuzzy inside. And ofc I enjoy the music and performances.
Also I’m a straight girl.
My orientation is the same as yours but I’m a straight man in his fifties. I can’t say for sure or why but if they weren’t Japanese I wouldn’t give them a second look. It’s puzzling.
whoa.
True love type of wota? Me? Not since ManoEri graduated.
Parental type of wota? Sakura Oda is a lovely girl.
Music fan type of wota? I blacked out from Morning Musume’s routine music through Ishikawa’s, yoshizawa’s, Fujimoto’s leadership. I returned when Takahashi took the lead and has stayed since.
I personally think the worst kinds of any sort of fan (wota or really any fan) is those that act condescending towards others AND/OR bash real people. Those kinds of people just disgust me personally.
Also I am uncomfortable with people who only like idols for their sex appeal especially if there is a large age difference AND they frequently talk about the fact their favorite member’s boobs or what sexual acts they would do with them. This only increases if the member in question is underage. This just disturbs me. Like okay, I get crushes-most people have a what we would call in America “celebrity crush” at some point in their life. But just talking about that is just not right in my opinion. If someone has to think that way, keep it to themeselves.
I love Morning Musume because I love their music and they make me happy. I am asexual, so I don’t experience sexual attraction towards anyone so that has never been a factor in me being a fan. I am not really that much older than the members so I can’t call myself a “parent” type. I guess I’m a music type then, but that isn’t what I’d call my “primary” focus because I don’t think I have one.
This isn’t related to this post, but as I don’t do twitter, I figured I’d just write a comment here about your excellent list of attendees at BK concert on twitter. It seems like Inaba Atsuko (Taiyou to Ciscomoon) was also there based on the picture from Ogawa Mokoto’s blog. Or at least I think it’s her that I see in the picture. :)
from: http://ameblo.jp/ogawamakoto-blog/entry-11997184549.html
Great, thanks for the info. I updated the list.
Here it is for people who don’t use Twitter:
http://wotaintranslation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/berryzbudokan.png
Holy crap, Yuuka showed up and got to sit with Dawa & Kanyon…that just brightened my day a bit.
Already experiencing Berryz-loss, though…*sigh*…it was a fun 12 1/2 years…
Berryz-loss… It still doesn’t feel real to me, so I am mostly just feeling hypothetically devastated. I haven’t dared to watch the concert or new Hello!Station yet. Doing that would probably make it real. Maybe tonight…
hypotheticallyratherAlso, the concert was amazing. But now I need something to lift me out of this mood.
from internet:
http://i.imgur.com/cwCE3iS.jpg
can’t see their faces though…
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>>9
All idol wota are lolicon.
Not if they’re the same age as the idol in question lol
That’s definitely true. Let’s say you have a 17 year old fan of Ikuta Erina. Well that can’t be classified as “lolicon” because, well, Ikuta is 17 years old.
I refresh this blog everyday. More translations please! :D
Bit greed, aren’t we?
Honestly, the one’s who say that the music and talent level don’t matter baffle me.
I posted in the thank you HP thread.. How I dealt with my medical conditions by being a HP fans.. So I mean I do love their songs, most if not all but I’m more toward true love..
Sigh.. In the end, they will graduate and marry some ikemen or comedian.. lol.. Damn, gross as it may sound.. I don’t if I should be glad or be sad for the fact I fell into this category.
Hey Henkka, are you still alive? I’m starting to wonder if you drank a bad batch of viina or something.
I’m impressed you know that word.
Anyway, I’m alive and well, thanks for asking. My recent inactivity here is simply because of a mix of real life and, believe it or not, lack of interesting threads popping up. I just genuinely don’t seem to be coming across that many threads in recent months that make me think “oh shit, I have to post this on the site ASAP!” With that said, I don’t actually know if it’s the threads’ fault or mine. It doesn’t feel like it’s all just in my head, but I guess it’s hard to be objective.
I recently added a couple of new matome blogs in my RSS reader (I now follow a total of seven) so hopefully that’ll help me discover more stuff I think is worth translating.
(Does anyone here read 狼 “raw” or through matome blogs? It’d be interesting to know if anyone else feels a drop in the number of entertaining threads being made, or if it’s just me.)
Glad to know you’re still alive. I’m sure something good will come along soon. The wotas of 2ch can’t go very long without writing some crazy shit. It’s in their nature.
man.. you should approach Hello Project and told them they should add english subtitles to their dvds. Maybe they’ll hire you
No rush, take your time, Henkka. Hopefully some interesting threads for you to translate pop up in the meantime ^_^
We’ll be here when you get back =D
(and yet I can’t help but check this site every day to see if there’s anything new lol)
I don’t read them regularly, but my recent glances at matome blogs have been met with mostly disappointing results.
To continue my bad habit of responding to my own comments and elaborate for those who might care. Let’s take this for example:
http://matomeldo.doorblog.jp/archives/43944682.html
The first post is amusing enough, but it’s just quotes from the JJ blog. The other posts aren’t very fun. I’ve seen quite a few like that lately.
This one’s not bad, actually. Wandering spirits in Sayu T-shirts appear at MM’15 concerts…
http://blog.livedoor.jp/morning77/archives/44420485.html
There’s also one guy speculating about wandering spirits in Berryz T-shirts appearing at CG concerts in the comments.
Chayuuu! ;_;
Hi Henkka. I am Creampie, Nakadashi-kun’s American cousin. Please continue translating more 2ch threads. It’s been too long since your last post. We need something to keep our obsession alive. Thank you very much.
I check this site every day to see if henkka updated it or not haha
Yo Henkka,
first of all of course, thank you for your hard work. Your translations always make my day.
If you’re looking for a new thread to translate, what about one about Tsunku? I’ve heard they’re popping up atm. Of course, only if you’ve got the time and the nerves to translate something rather sad.
Tsunku is removing his vocal cord
Yeah I know, it would be interesting to read 2ch reaction to that.
Fuck.
I’m not sure what type I am. A mix of all three maybe. It was the music that got me interested in the first place. I have been actively buying music since I was five years old so it’s always been a big part of my life. However the music is always instilled with personality. Liking music is not a dry academic thing. It’s about the feelings it invokes. Liking individual members is much the same though. It’s about the feelings they invoke. The music grabbed me but it’s the idols personalities that made me what could be classed as “a wota”. As for what type I am that depends on the idol I’m looking at. True love type? Well Ai-chan as a human being certainly made me feel “ahhh”. Not to a weird hide from reality extent by any means. More just a healthy admiration. She actually inspires me in lots of ways. Meanwhile Sayumi or Junjun…inspired other feelings. But even with them I didn’t see them as objects and really admired their heart and humour. Finding someone sexually attractive doesn’t automatically mean you are somehow reducing them to being an object. It’s a bizarre assumption many people make. As for younger members? I guess I’m at an age where it’s very much a paternal feeling.
I think overall though people are complex and the most natural type of fan to be is a mix of all three depending on the groups and the idols. I don’t mean you should feel parental and want to shag the same idol though. >.>
Ultimately I hate labels. Humans are messy. Most people don’t truly fit into such neat boxes surely? Also I do think the most important thing about enjoying life (as a wota or otherwise) is to truly not give a shit whether random strangers think you are disgusting or not. What makes others such arbiters of taste anyway? I’m happy in my lifestyle choices so why care?
Next I’ll comment on some more threads several months too late. ><
Ishibashi had the right attitude as far as I could tell. He had genuine? fun with the girls while doing his job and getting ratings .
I just watch variety shows with them, cute and funny segments from sketches, older satoyams utabans and behind the scenes stuff.
I don’t really care for swimsuit s and photo books.
I tried loliconing on them once or twice but I discovered regular porn is my thing.
Its not out of respect I don’t fap to them.
Its because I’m a bald middle aged guy mostly.
Its like gundam(yeah I know)
I watch it sometimes but don’t collect cards or plastic models or get that deep into it.
Some of the Japanese guys are up to their necks in it lol
I’m def. the ‘music type’. I’ve sat down at my piano before I tried to figure out how to play the songs that I enjoy the most (with varying degrees of success).