1: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 12:10:57.35 0
福田花音✔ @kanonfukuda
11:08 – 2019年12月20日
Rather than allowing photos or such, they need to put H!P music on streaming services…
I want to listen to all those old songs and have others listen to them, too…
12: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 12:46:04.79 0
Most artists already do this.
8: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 12:34:32.24 0
Allowing people to listen to the music for free wouldn’t profit the company.
As an idol agency, it must be pretty low on their list of priorities.
33: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 17:56:05.46 0
>>8
On the contrary, with such a huge catalog of old songs, Up-Front should definitely do this.
11: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 12:45:11.64 0
>>8
Not for free, but for a fixed amount. It’s not a huge amount of money, but the company would get paid depending on the plays they get, so it definitely wouldn’t be a minus for them. And above all else, it would be a gateway for people who are curious. Not allowing streaming services is like keeping that gateway closed.
9: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 12:34:34.05 0
This is even going a bit viral on Twitter. The people who don’t care just don’t care, but there are lots of wota who aren’t interested in handshake events, and wota who just want to listen to the old songs.
14: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 13:03:32.55 0
I want them to join Spotify or Apple. I’d be willing to pay for one of those services, but I haven’t taken the plunge yet simply because H!P isn’t on there.
41: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 18:27:28.79 0
Streaming services… So there’d be like a monthly payment?
45: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 20:06:03.02 0
>>41
There are free streaming services too, such as Spotify.
15: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 13:17:25.16 0
But then would they sell any more CD’s if they were on a streaming service?
19: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 13:54:00.14 0
Most CD’s that are going to be sold in the future are basically just handshake tickets, and I don’t think there are that many new fans who are interested in collecting the huge amount of past CD’s.
I don’t believe there would be much of a demerit for the company if they were to put their music on a streaming service. Although, seeing as there are some other groups who don’t do it either, I guess there might be and it’s something that I’m just not seeing…?
21: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 14:15:52.54 0
Would they get paid royalties for each play?
25: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 15:08:15.61 0
>>21
Yes, you get paid for each play.
It’s around 0.5 to 1 yen for one play.
23: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 14:22:23.50 0
Nowadays when they perform old songs in concerts, many people don’t even know them so they don’t get excited at all upon hearing them. Streaming services have become essential for H!P.
31: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 17:51:09.25 0
I want them to be on a streaming service, too, but it’s not something that would make them money. I wish they would at least put the old songs on there, but maybe they can’t do that…
32: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 17:54:55.87 0
Not putting their music on a streaming service?
Even though 90% of all artists are already doing so?
40: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 18:23:14.92 0
I’ll just check out a song on YouTube if I’m curious to hear it.
I don’t believe there to be much merit in it for the company.
43: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 19:42:32.32 0
>>40
Well, for me, if I’m curious about a song I’ll look it up on a streaming service.
If the song is not on there, then it’s game over.
55: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/21(土) 04:35:06.02 0
Streaming services wouldn’t profit them so there’s no way this money-hungry company is going to do it.
13: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 12:56:03.53 0
I don’t need them on a music streaming service, but I would pay good money to be able to watch all the past DVD Magazines and birthday events.
51: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/12/20(金) 21:06:28.76 0
Don’t need it.
I already have CD’s of everything I want to listen to.
2. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 08:22
Someone saying he has all the CD’s so he doesn’t need the streaming service… There’s a limit to how many CD’s one can buy, whereas it would be easy to simply generate more plays for them. I own the CD’s, too, but I still listen to music mostly on Spotify and stuff. Because Meimei and Kikka are on there.
4. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 08:25
There’s more and more people who won’t listen to an artist if they’re not on the streaming services, and even the people who don’t usually listen to idols might come across one of their songs if they’re listening on shuffle. When that happens, there’s even the added merit that they might be invited back to ROCK IN JAPAN and stuff. And now with so many groups, even some H!P wota can’t keep up and listen to all of the songs, instead listening only to the ones from their favorite group. This would make it easier for them to listen to all the songs.
8. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 09:16
You’ll often see foreign fans in the YouTube comments begging them to put their music on Spotify. They really should follow Arashi’s example and just do it.
10. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 09:44
It makes no sense for her to bring the topic of allowing photos into this. Moreover, she and Mano should apologize for making all that fuss about how it’s supposedly bad to allow taking photos when there ended up being no issues whatsoever. She could have just privately voiced her concerns to someone at the office, but instead she chose to take the route of pandering to the wota on Twitter and enjoying all the positive replies and retweets.
15. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 10:55
>>10
It’s related in the sense that both things are something that other idols and artists have started doing. The reason there wasn’t a problem with the photo-taking was because it turned out there weren’t that many fans who were even interested in doing so, meaning that it’s now proven that there was no demand for it in the first place. Hardly anyone has been talking about it after the first day it was allowed, so wouldn’t you say this service was actually unneeded?
Up until now, all the concerts where it has been allowed have been broadcast on TV or online, but in the future when they allow it in concerts that aren’t broadcast anywhere, there might be people who will record or take videos. Up until this point, yes, Mano’s and Fukuda’s fears have been unfounded. But it’s definitely possible that this will cause problems in the future, so there’s no need for them to apologize.
12. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 09:53
I really want them to do this. Sure, I have the CD’s, but that’s because I’m a wota. I still want to make my own playlists without any limitations. And what with the handshakes, would the CD sales even suffer that much? Also, I can’t be the only one who thinks that by increasing the point of contact, it might lead to them being invited to do more concerts like ROCK IN JAPAN…
16. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 10:59
I don’t use Spotify so I can’t speak from experience, but over in America most Up-Front songs, including H!P, are on Apple Music. So the office can’t seem to make up its mind about this.
23. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 12:39
>>16
That Apple Music thing overseas is definitely not done by Up-Front, but someone who is doing it completely without their permission. The shitty office needs to hurry up and do something about it! That’s what I’ve heard anyway… But it wouldn’t surprise me, knowing this shitty office. Scary stuff.
17. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 11:13
Longtime wota already know how this office is slow to act on things like this. They might do it if a streaming service actually approaches them and begs them to join — that’s how highly-esteemed this office thinks H!P continues to be.
19. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 11:51
Airi and Moritaka have been added to streaming services, so it’s not like they’re completely against the idea. The office must have their reasons. Johnny’s, Yonezu, and B’z aren’t doing it either, so that means there must not be that big of an incentive in it for them. Arashi alone joined up, but they’re ceasing their activities next year.
20. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 12:07
>>19
Johnny’s has a famously bad reputation for being so hostile towards the internet.
You don’t want to follow their example.
34. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 15:30
>>19
Johnny’s, Yonezu, and B’z, sure. But it’s big news how just in the past month Pink Lady, Southern All-Stars, and L’Arc~en~Ciel have all joined streaming services. So it’s not a fair comparison.
22. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 12:34
H!P doesn’t even get invited on music shows anymore. Even if they did join the streaming services, no one but the H!P wota would listen to their songs.
33. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 15:27
>>22
People could come across their songs when listening on random.
24. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 12:44
From a listener’s viewpoint? Sure, it’s cheap and easy. But from the seller’s viewpoint? I’m not so sure. If putting your music on streaming services was the key to success, no one in the entire idol business would be struggling.
1. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 08:07
The wota being so damn critical about everything is why the office is stagnating like this.
7. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 09:12
>>1
No matter how critical the wota may be, the office keeps doing exactly what it wants (Cool Hello, having concurrent members, etc.) It’s kind of pointless making this one thing seem like it’s the wota’s fault.
38. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 17:24
I’m sitting here thinking, “just buy the damn CD’s.”
But then I guess nowadays most people don’t even own a CD player…
40. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 18:01
CD’s? (laughs)
It’s 2019, grandpa!
6. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 08:31
Airi has been added to streaming services, so H!P will probably follow suit sooner or later.
Not that there are any signs of it yet though…
3. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年12月21日 08:25
No matter how you look at it, they ought to join up.
Source: http://c-ute.doorblog.jp/archives/54148460.html
That feeling when you’re at a social gathering and everyone’s playing their fav songs on Spotify and I’m sitting there like – NONE OF MY FAVOURITE ARTISTS ARE ON THIS SERVICE, whether Japanese or Korean…
For my personal use of music it’s not a huge problem, but it does make it hard to share stuff with people
I didn’t know the the Apple Music streaming was an overseas thing. It’s not that scam Up Front Germany uploading it, right? He used spotify as far as I know.
Generally while I prefer spotify since I don’t own anything apple related (and don’t want to), making it available on Apple Music to Japanese fans should be the next step.
I don’t think the Apple Music streaming is an overseas thing. Up Front uploads their music on iTunes, which by default is available on Apple Music in Japan. Maybe, the comments in the thread is referring to the fact that it isn’t available on Spotify which it seems like most people are on but I have an image that iPhones are popular in Japan (and in first world countries) so having Apple Music is an easy thing to try (especially with the 3 month free trial). Besides, Apple Music has an app on Android too.
UF puts their music on itunes but it’s only available internationally on Apple Music (it’s blocked in JP, just like Airi#s content on Spotify is blocked internationally).
i like them saying that kenshi yonezu hasnt done it when all of his songs are on spotify lol. he’s one of the biggest #1 billboard holders and top sellers in japan right now. he has almost a million listeners per month. i would have hello!pro on repeat constantly if they were on streaming services i want to use.
most people have a paid spotify account and use that instead of even downloading songs. there’s even a decently big market for Japanese music there. There’s no doubt that going with this trend would get more ears listening to H!P.
I was just making a new spotify playlist last month comprised of JPOP and H!P is the only group not on streaming services and it annoyed the hell out of me. 48\46G have tons of their music on spotify as well as babymetal and Momoclo all of which get around 300-500k listeners per month. Upfront should just get with the times, CDs are a dying form media, most devices, cars, computers dont even come with ways to play them. They’ve already gone all in on Youtube and its paying off so I dont get why they wont stream their music
They don’t realise how may fans they would gain if they put their music on spotify. So many people would be able to find their music and become fans.
Maro is here for save us all.
Satan blessed her.
“I really want them to do this. Sure, I have the CD’s, but that’s because I’m a wota. I still want to make my own playlists without any limitations.”
I want to say ‘So rip your CDs!’, but I guess in 2019 it’s becoming rarer to even have a disc drive. So I’ll go with ‘So buy them digitally then!’
Artists get so little payment from these services, I’m surprised so many do it. I guess maybe it depends what percentage of their money they expect to make from the music versus ticket sales or other merchandise.
I understand why they don’t, because streaming is a racket for the artists, they get paid little to nothing unless they’re at Taylor Swift or Drake levels of popularity. Also, I far prefer discs because they can’t take the music away from me if the service shuts down (just look at all of the DRM bullshit eBooks have had), so I appreciate the CDs.
However, they could easily put H!P’s out-of-print stuff on streaming services as a gateway. I would recommend also putting new songs on there only for a limited time, as a teaser. So get Elder Club and Berikyuu stuff on streaming, then select current-roster stuff.
(They could also make their CD print costs much cheaper through various means, but I digress)
Their concert merch game has gotten so much better, though, so maybe they’re pivoting to making more of their money through non-CD means, which would incentivize them to publicize the music more to get more people into the concerts and concert merch.
As a Spotify user I say: yes, pls :}
And to this day, H!P music is not on many platforms. Thank you, Up-Front for being prioritising money. (Sarcastic)