1: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/20(水) 22:20:43.66 0.net
5: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/20(水) 22:24:17.05 0.net
Oh damn. That’s pretty blunt.
293: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/20(水) 23:27:09.47 0.net
This is the first time I’ve seen him state it that clearly.
I want to know if he had anything to do with the selection of 12th gen.
6: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/20(水) 22:25:02.99 0.net
So it was creative differences with the office… (laughs)
602: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/21(木) 01:26:54.21 0.net
Oh man. I really wish I hadn’t read that. I don’t feel good about this. And I’m not saying that while trying to blame either side.
3: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/20(水) 22:23:19.39 0.net
With all that said, I do constantly worry about the mental well-being of the members.
H!P needs you.
27: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/20(水) 22:32:42.10 0.net
Maybe the office felt that the EDM stuff was pushing it too far?
11: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/20(水) 22:26:19.36 0.net
It definitely felt like Tsunku had become too arrogant and this was like a form of severe punishment from the company president for that arrogance.
21: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/20(水) 22:30:34.20 0.net
Judging from the interview, it’s just like everyone thought: he really didn’t have much at all to do with the group after 11th gen.
25: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/20(水) 22:32:14.66 0.net
Yeah. He does say he no longer knows much about the current members’ personalities.
167: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/20(水) 23:04:06.04 0.net
What’s up with the fact that the pace of new single and album releases only got slower after Tsunku stepped down? Having multiple songwriters instead of just one person who’s in charge of everything… How is it possible for it to be slower now?
548: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/21(木) 00:26:31.72 0.net
>>167
They must’ve realized it’s not profitable to keep constantly pushing out so many new releases.
181: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/20(水) 23:06:12.75 0.net
A recent tweet from Tsunku♂ that went viral:
つんく ♂@tsunkuboy 6月17日
I’ve been a bit busy so I haven’t actually watched the show yet, but I saw all of your tweets about it. Having to answer the questionnaire from the program, it was necessary for me to shine the spotlight on certain individual members.
But there’s something I wish to express here. And that is: in these 20 years since the beginning of the group, there was never a time when the group consisted only of a single person. If even one member hadn’t been there, the group wouldn’t be where it is today.
Gratitude.
171 replies, 6,851 retweets, 21,882 likes
You don’t see comments like this from the office-side much as of late.
This kind of thing seems to get a reaction especially from the younger newcomer fans.
482: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/21(木) 00:02:08.58 0.net
It feels like ever since Tsunku left, Hello Con no longer has that same sense of “togetherness.”
487: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/21(木) 00:03:38.95 0.net
The Tsunku threads always get so many replies. After he stepped down, you just don’t see this kind of passion on the board anymore.
508: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/21(木) 00:09:04.87 0.net
When Tsunku was the producer, most of the lyrics would be written specifically for them. He’d get hints by asking the H!P members directly about their school lives and stuff.
577: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/21(木) 00:53:59.84 0.net
>>1
The H!P members themselves still all yearn for Tsunku to come back.
588: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/21(木) 01:10:21.71 0.net
I still remember immediately noticing when the “produced by Tsunku♂” disappeared from the concert intros.
610: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/21(木) 01:33:11.72 0.net
The wota always read too much into things and so they’ll say stuff like how the office and Tsunku are now on bad terms or whatever, but I really don’t think that’s the case at all. The H!P wota just think too much about these things.
670: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/21(木) 04:44:46.30 0.net
Instead of spending so much time on H!P, I personally really think he ought to prioritize the time he spends with his family. But then on the other hand, Terada has earned every right to criticize the office. So I see no problem here.
671: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/21(木) 04:48:21.77 0.net
>>670
They really ought to at least make him an on-location advisor instead of just keeping him around as the sound producer. Like the man himself said, he’s worried about their mental well-being — at least let him be in communication with them. At least then he could write the members’ graduation songs specifically for them. I bet that’d make the members themselves happy, too.
4. カラフル名無しさん 2018年06月21日 22:52 ID:Dpjplcz.0
Speaking purely for myself, I’m a big fan of Tsunku-san’s personality and his music. But as to the question as to would all fans be happy with Tsunku coming back and producing everything again like he did in the past? Just think back to how it was in ’14 — the answer is: no, no they wouldn’t. However, as he said in the interview, Tsunku is very worried about the members’ mental well-being. The fact that he’s no longer involved makes me worried about the members, too.
As for Tsunku and the office’s differing opinions as to the direction of Hello! Project, could that have mostly to do with the music and the whole Cool Hello thing? Don’t you feel that these days there just aren’t enough of the songs where the members get to just fool around?
3. カラフル名無しさん 2018年06月21日 22:03 ID:D238kHKC0
While it may not have been the entire reason, I do think a big part of it really was his health. It’s cancer we’re talking about here. My old man died of cancer, so I know full well how scary it can be. Of course they want to have him take it easy for a while — he lost his voice, after all. This is the same guy who said “I can keep going, I can keep going” as his voice got raspier and raspier, before finally they had to take out his vocal cords entirely. Rewatch the 2013 Countdown Live — his voice sounds terrible there. You can’t say his health had nothing to do with it at all.
666: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/21(木) 04:32:24.28 0.net
It couldn’t have been an easy decision. I’m sure the office considered carefully Terada’s health before deciding whether to have him continue with H!P or not. Still, it’s only natural that Terada would be left with a sour taste in his mouth, feeling like he had been kicked out.
246: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/20(水) 23:18:52.74 0.net
Morning Musume’s singles always have at least one Tsunku song… but I bet we’re not far off from getting singles without any Tsunku songs at all.
Sources: http://colorhello.blog.jp/archives/1071371309.html
This change my perception of current H!P
Right.
Before: “They were more concerned with his health than he was.”
Now: “They didn’t want H!P to be defined by… the one thing that defined H!P?”
Would it be alright to ask what show or interview they were talking about? I kinda want to watch the whole thing now…
It’s from Tsunku’s interview in the 20th Anniversary book
I think he means the show Tsunku mentioned he hadn’t watched yet.
666: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/21(木) 04:32:24.28 0.net
It couldn’t have been an easy decision. I’m sure the office considered carefully Terada’s health before deciding whether to have him continue with H!P or not. Still, it’s only natural that Terada would be left with a sour taste in his mouth, feeling like he had been kicked out.
I agree with this comment the most. Of course Tsunku would be bitter when he still wanted to produce them.
But with people like Makoto and Shimizu Saki being part of the office I think it’s unfair to worry about the members wellbeing. Not for Tsunku because again I can see why he would be bitter. But why should I as a fan agree when there’s nothing so far that hints the members aren’t feeling well.
We witnessed Tsunku blaming S/m 2nd gen for the ill sucess of the group. And we just saw the office giving Manakan yet another chance to battle idol life despite of her health condition.
I know there are many Terada fans around here including Henkka and I’m sorry if my comment upsets you. It probably will. But it was the office that hired Shimizu, Chinami and Maasa after Berryz went on hiatus. It’s the office that gave Kaga, Ichioka, Kurumi and Momohime the chance to debut after all this time they’ve spent in H!P or other idol groups because they saw their determination. With this office I am not worried for the members wellbeing as it is.
Like any household, you need a proper break so you can see how your attitude and actions affect others. Likewise, to see what could be done instead or what’s lacking.
So it’s very plausible he realized something is off with current management after it became the norm for most of what he knows of them isn’t much different from wota. And while no one could entirely prevent mental health concerns (eg panic disorder), he’s at least aware they’re stress isn’t helping it
And they’re all stressed (some definitely handle it better than others) and you can tell what his concerns for them are within his lyrics for the All Stars single. It’s not him being pompous etc, he’s simply concerned as most fans aware of their workload. But now he’s unable to do more than a parent whose kids are too busy to visit – all he can do now is offer vague words of encouragement and hope they stick.
btw, I’m confused by what you mean about the three Berryz OG being on staff. I’ve not seen it mentioned before that they have any sway on the debut members (outside of maybe personal advice). And they seemed more involved with some KSS activities which are a ton less stressful than the actual members’, minus CG.
(ps I will forever vehemently blame him for Yasshii’s wrecked vocals, so no, I ain’t ever defending his past failures as a leader or parental figure to H!P. He had enough sway in the past to at least talk to them and offer guidance when desperately needed even if he was mostly in charge by name alone towards the end)
I wonder if the office had been wanting to get rid of Tsunku for some time and used his health as convenient timing…
“27: 名無し募集中。。。 2018/06/20(水) 22:32:42.10 0.net
Maybe the office felt that the EDM stuff was pushing it too far?”
But as he’s said before (and I’m pretty sure I read here at WiT), he’s less able to do a wider variety of music now because the office will reject things like cutesier songs. So the killer combination of less variety and far less quantity.
I miss Tsunku like everyone else and I want nothing more than his involvement, but with how many folks working for HP agree with that and understand his work I’m not too scared. And I can hope Maachan really will take over….
i LIVE for wota dissing Cool Hello, even if subtlety so
Wow, this is the first I’ve heard of this…I’m not sure what to think
I still get the impression it was something like:
>them: you need to slow down else you’ll die
>him: i’m fine, I don’t want to slow down
>them: ok we’ll make you
Sad as hell about Tsunku leaving still but in the end I think it was the best for his health…
I didn’t realize just how disconnected he is now: it was telling that he wasn’t really given some sort of comment on either of the 20th Anniversary specials. It also explains the overall vocal strength (or lack of, really) in the 12th generation—I think the current management were fortunate to have gotten the 13th generation, and Morito as the 14th has been killing it, but it’s odd that the 12th generation still sound the same compared to some of the other members.
I have to admit I actually still like all the single tracks, but it was also odd a huge chunk of singles were skipped between the 14th and 15th album without even a compilation album…
I don’t want to be a dick but if Tsunku was still around I doubt he’d choose Akane or Haachin for 12th gen.
This would be more surprising had I not read that bit in the 20th Anniversary interview about how upper management has been dictating the musical styles to Tsunku since as far back as the Platinum Era.
at the end of the day, this shouldn’t be too surprising… Tsunku was just an employee in the end, so there would eventually be a time where him and his bosses wouldn’t be able to get through their differences and he would probably have to step away from H!P. This was probably was just accelerated when his cancer was diagnosed and the office quietly pushed him out then.
Shouldn’t really be a surprise for anyone who noticed how different HP has become since Tsunku left.
The new all-stars single is so uninspired and sleep-inducing…Juice=Juice and ANGERME have been overstuffed with unfitting girls, Tsubaki’s and Kobushi’s music has been excruciatingly plain…Ive followed.H!P for over six years and since Tsunku left the soul that was driving the production is gone too. Some girls seem to try and keep it going but since summer last year when CG got reshuffled the specialness of the groups was tarnished. I dont know what to make of this bullshit anymore.