Wota in Translation

@alpha910 2012/2/25 4:33
@tsunkuboy There’s a thread where they’re discussing your music from the perspective of music otaku. “I was just your ordinary music lover until suddenly I now find that I’ve become an H!P wota.“

H: Tsunku himself actually retweeted the above. Below is the thread that was linked to him.

1: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 07:57:10.41 ID:0
It’s weird.

2: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 07:57:57.53 ID:0
It is weird!

4: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 07:58:15.84 ID:0
Yep.

5: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 07:58:53.68 ID:0
You guys, too?

6: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:00:30.43 ID:i
Same here. I love Tsunku’s songs so much.

7: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:00:31.56 ID:0
I’ve listened to everything from Benny Goodman to James Blake, but Terada Mitsuo is the greatest of them all.

10: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:01:35.71 ID:0
He’s a genius.

13: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:06:52.69 ID:0
It’d be great even if it was just the songs themselves that were good, but the members make them something even greater than the recorded versions when they sing them live. That’s why I’m hooked.

14: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:07:45.90 ID:0
I love H!P’s taste. Songs like Pyokotra are too awesome.

16: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:08:48.16 ID:0
There sure seem to be a lot of folks who know their music that also praise Pyokotra.

15: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:08:17.21 ID:0
Honestly, anyone who loves music can’t ignore Tsunku♂.

18: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:09:59.48 ID:0
We live in an era where music won’t sell even if it’s good.

19: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:10:57.03 ID:0
It’s the perfect blend of super catchy melodies, strangely memorable lyrics, and absurd arrangements.

20: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:11:44.08 ID:O
You might’ve convinced yourself that you’re a music lover, but honestly, the guys that do end up at H!P probably didn’t listen to music that many would agree was any good at all to begin with.

22: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:12:36.00 ID:0
Perhaps so, but at least in my own opinion I did listen to a lot of different kinds of music without any prejudice.

24: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:14:20.20 ID:0
I listen to everything from Ikimonogakari to Mahler. Is that not enough?

28: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:16:19.97 ID:0
I really do feel that while I am an H!P wota, I’m not an idol wota.

31: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:18:03.43 ID:0
I’m an H!P wota but I prefer Buono’s songs.

33: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:20:47.06 ID:0
I don’t think it’s going to happen, but assuming someone tried to write a song that sounded like TROUT MASK REPLICA with some idol lyrics slapped on top of it, Tsunku is pretty much the only person who could actually make it work. (laughs)

35: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:22:45.74 ID:0
>>33
Yeah. He seems like he might try doing that just for the fun of it. He’s like the Captain Beefheart meets Frank Zappa meets The Beatles of the Japanese music world.

37: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:23:54.44 ID:0
Honestly, for me he’s a melody maker on a level where it wouldn’t be saying too much even if you were to call him the Paul McCartney of Osaka.

41: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:25:43.44 ID:0
I think Hatsukoi Cider’s a pretty good song, but it’s like any AKB or Judy and Mary song in that nothing feels different about it.

51: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:29:32.35 ID:0
>>41
Hatsukoi Cider is just your usual girls band song. Not that I’m saying there’s anything wrong with it.

55: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:30:14.27 ID:0
>>41
Yeah. It’s a good song, but there’s nothing new about it. In other words, it’s going to be lost in the annals of music history. On the other hand, it feels like Tsunku♂’s songs will still be appreciated even 20 years from now. He’s constantly challenging new things.

42: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:25:54.52 ID:0
He’d already set himself apart from all the rest with Love Machine.

49: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:28:45.83 ID:0
My friend who’s a music lover was saying it’s funny how when he sings H!P at karaoke, he can tell the arranger of the karaoke versions really goes all out in making them.

50: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:29:18.68 ID:0
From Primal Scream to H!P.

53: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:29:50.01 ID:0
Right now it’s S/mileage that Tsunku’s really into writing for, right?

54: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:30:06.06 ID:0
Who cares if it sells or not. He’s great because he likes to challenge things. There are exceedingly few songwriters in the major scene right now who write songs that are so different.

60: 無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:32:23.40 ID:0
Tsunku♂’s songs are like leather shoes. When you first wear them, they don’t really fit so they kind of hurt. But with time, as you get used to them, the uncomfortableness gradually disappears until suddenly you find that you can wear them just fine.

88: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:41:42.47 ID:0
>>60
I’m so stealing this expression.

67: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:34:51.22 ID:0
The president of Tower Records was also saying on radio about how he’d listened to all kinds of music first before finally arriving at idol songs. Apparently it’s fun for him how it mixes funk, rock and all kinds of different genres.

71: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:36:16.34 ID:0
>>67
He also said that one day after he came back from work feeling exhausted, he turned on the TV, saw Tsuji-chan, thought she was really cute, and that’s how he got hooked. So which is it? (laughs)

83: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:40:34.09 ID:0
>>71
Probably both. But he kinda just strikes me as a lolicon. Apparently Marty Friedman decided he was going to move to Japan when he heard Matsuura’s “Momoiro Kataomoi” playing at a convenience store. He, too, just feels like a lolicon to me though.

93: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:44:07.19 ID:0
>>83
Well, he might be, but Matsuura’s songs seriously never grow stale. They still sound awesome even now. They have this impression of sounding really aged because of the waning popularity of Matsuura herself, but when you actually listen to them, they don’t sound that way at all.

73: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:37:09.13 ID:0
His songs are avant garde and messed up as is, but it’s the fact that for some reason it’s teenage girls singing on top of those songs that makes it so crazy — in a good way.

80: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:39:37.85 ID:0
>>73
This. It’d be nonsensical, but the powerful melodies along with the simple yet memorable lyrics somehow make it work. The fact that he’s been able to do that for 15 consecutive years is just insane.

75: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:38:04.76 ID:0
I tried checking out other idols and it just served as a reminder to me that H!P really is idols produced by real musicians.

85: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:41:23.69 ID:0
While it’s not fair to talk about Tsunku♂ songs without also mentioning the arrangers, I have to say that Ookii Hitomi is just a great song in so many ways.

89: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:41:54.94 ID:0
What’s fun about H!P is how they mix so many different styles of music without a care in the world — and then they force idols to sing on top of it all.

94: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:44:50.03 ID:0
Even the members must think to themselves, “damn that Tsunku for giving us another weird song like this…” It’s too early to give music like that to some teens with no understanding of music.

106: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:50:46.26 ID:0
>>94
They probably do, yeah.

99: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:47:22.21 ID:0
Three years ago I thought I’d make a mix CD with just the H!P songs I really love. It ended up becoming 4 CD’s with about 21 songs on each one with no repeated songs. Even now I still often listen to it in my car. That’s pretty awesome when you think about it.

113: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:52:09.61 ID:0
>>99
I have a “best of H!P” playlist with 300 songs on it that I listen to on random. It’s so damn good.

101: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:48:36.25 ID:0
With the succession of poor songs he was putting out I was sure Tsunku’s time had passed.
And then he comes out with Uchouten LOVE.

105: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:50:19.56 ID:0
>>101
For me that was a miraculous song born out of his love towards S/mileage and its members.

103: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:49:51.30 ID:0
If you tell someone who fancies themselves as a “true” music lover that you love H!P, they’ll immediately start making fun of you for it. I can’t stand people like that who won’t even give something a chance before deciding it’s worthless.

107: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:50:49.88 ID:0
Tachiagaaru, Miniskirt Postwoman and Choto Mate are all really good.

116: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:52:53.76 ID:0
I don’t think singing is the essence of what idols are about or anything, but as long as their producer is a musician they won’t be able to stop being fixated on it. It’s like Tsunku’s stance doesn’t fit with the times. On the other hand, that’s also what’s good about them. Tsunku himself is probably aware of this dilemma, right?

118: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:53:32.27 ID:0
Those who can’t stand Tsunku’s songs can’t stand them no matter what, so it can’t be helped.

124: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:55:46.02 ID:0
I was completely devoted to UK rock, but for some reason Tsunku’s songs have become a habit for me. Buono I haven’t really given a proper listen to but lately they interest me, too.

129: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:56:50.05 ID:0
When I see the AKB wota here stirring things up, I just think to myself… yeah, AKB does have good songs. I can admit that. But there’s nothing that makes you get hooked on them.

144: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:02:23.94 ID:0
>>129
I do think AKB’s songs are good quality idol songs, but nothing about them goes beyond that. Nothing about them is thrilling.

130: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:58:02.93 ID:0
AKB’s songs lack substance.

131: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:58:26.71 ID:0
My journey: classical → 80’s J-pop → 90’s Western rock, heavy rock & heavy metal, alternative → 90’s house, techno, hip hop, reggae, jazz → H!P.

133: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 08:58:55.31 ID:0
AKB’s songs are painfully kindergarten level in both melody and rhythm. Their new song is simpler than Kaeru no Uta.

137: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:00:27.98 ID:0
AKB’s songs are like the polar opposite of H!P’s songs. It’s like they put 98% of the effort into the chorus.

138: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:00:38.24 ID:0
The first time I heard Baisekou Daiseikou, I seriously thought it’d been written by a complete lunatic.

150: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:03:45.50 ID:0
>>138
I get that. (laughs) Sometimes I get worried that Tsunku♂ might’ve gone completely insane.

139: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:00:47.35 ID:0
It’s weird how sad Uchouten LOVE sounds.

141: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:01:43.07 ID:0
>>139
The lyrics, yeah. The song itself sounds recklessly upbeat. (laughs)

146: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:03:01.78 ID:0
>>141
Really? For me, Tsunku’s melodies often sound really sad when they’re set against those cheerful lyrics.

151: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:03:57.15 ID:i
>>146
Yeah. I feel that way especially with Koko ni Iruzee and Koi wo Shichaimashita.

155: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:06:02.91 ID:0
>>146
It’s not by Tsunku, but Mano-chan’s Summer Party seriously almost makes me cry.

256: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:02:35.74 ID:0
>>155
Same here. The feeling of sadness creeps up on me so fast when listening to that.

161: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:07:29.19 ID:0
The frequent gimmicks are fun, too. Sometimes when I hear them I’ll be thinking to myself like “wait, you’re really going to do that!?” Like the unexpected modulation for that one phrase in Genki-kun, the skipping on Makeruna Wasshoi, the spoken words, the screams…

162: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:07:35.21 ID:0
Tsunku’s songs are different from what the general public wants. It’s always been that way, even during the Golden Era. That’s what makes him innovative. I want him to always stay sincere and not try to suck up to the listener. Every now and then I want him to deliver songs that make you feel anger and sadness.

173: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:12:36.85 ID:0
Being able to hear a sound like that of Busu Tetsu or Aa, Yo ga Akeru in this day and age is a miracle in itself.

174: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:12:51.92 ID:0
The public might treat him like he’s yesterday’s news, but Tsunku♂ does have a sincerity towards music that he refuses to compromise on.

195: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:19:35.76 ID:0
No one but Tsunku♂ could write a song like Dokusenyoku.

198: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:21:43.39 ID:0
There are so many songs that feel like they could’ve been written only by Tsunku♂.

203: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:23:41.42 ID:0
H!P’s songs seriously have this crazy intensity about them. I don’t even really know what I mean by that myself, but I don’t know any better word to describe it.

205: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:27:13.05 ID:0
Pyokotra might seem like a silly song, but it has a good melody, it has that glitchy rhythm that was popular in late 90’s, early 00’s and it was written to closely resemble something like electronica or breakcore. Nowadays when people speak of techno it’s something like Perfume most of the time, but they’re so monotonous and stale. In this context, something like Pyokotra goes way beyond.

It might’ve been fun to have like a hardcore, Venetian Snares-ish version of it as the B-side, but maybe even the wota wouldn’t have gotten it if they’d went that far.

206: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:29:13.69 ID:0
People on this board are always talking about the sales, but honestly, as a listener I couldn’t care less about it. You’ll find people playing tiny places in Shimokita that are overwhelmingly much better than some of the people who regularly appear on TV.

207: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:30:21.51 ID:0
But when it gets to a certain point, you almost start feeling sorry for the performers. You worry about when they’re going to disappear. (laughs)

210: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:32:06.19 ID:0
>>207
True, there’s that. But I just don’t want people to think that it has anything to do with the quality of the music. Sales has more to do with marketing strategy than anything else.

209: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:31:33.43 ID:0
I want to hear Tsunku’s demo vocal version of Pyokotra. Uchouten’s was pretty good.

238: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:47:36.16 ID:0
I think Tsunku♂ was quite influenced by the Urusei Yatsura songs. I wonder who wrote those?

240: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:49:22.21 ID:0
>>238
The first time I heard Gag 100, I thought it was a Lum ripoff. (laughs)

246: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:52:37.34 ID:0
Listening to songs like Uchuu wa Taihen da, Lum no Love Song and Hoshizora Cycling, it feels like there are some similarities to H!P. I think he might’ve been influenced by them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5g44PNCuA0

255: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:01:17.01 ID:0
Just looked it up. Apparently someone called Kobayashi Izumi arranged those Urusei Yatsura songs. There’s also a song called “I, I, You & Ai” — very similar to that one Tanpopo song.

241: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:49:47.62 ID:0
Like a hodgepodge of old anime songs, kayou kyoku, enka, The Beatles, and funk music.

248: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 09:55:16.52 ID:0
If you listen to the songs, it’s easy to understand why middle-aged guys of Tsunku’s generation like his music.

258: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:04:28.10 ID:0
Frank Zappa, Beck, Tsunku♂ — any other people who share their kind of genealogy?

263: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:06:53.28 ID:0
>>258
Brian Wilson and — I expect to get flamed for this — Norman Cook.

276: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:12:11.49 ID:0
>>263
Beach Boys and Fatboy, huh! I don’t really know either so I’ll give them a listen.

265: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:07:30.18 ID:0
>>258
Todd Rundgren.

269: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:10:05.82 ID:0
>>258
Mark Coyne of Flaming Lips might be quite close, too.

261: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:05:57.73 ID:0
Why did I end up becoming such an H!P wota? If I don’t stop going to the events soon, I don’t think I’ll ever be able to escape…

289: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:19:10.39 ID:0
There’s no doubt that in the future Tsunku♂ will be thought of as like a deity. I think if it wasn’t for Tsunku♂, the music of Japan would’ve been quite different. AKB might not have ever happened either.

292: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:20:16.07 ID:0
I definitely don’t think he’ll be thought of as a deity, but that’s more because of his lyrics than his songs.

298: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:23:39.69 ID:0
Maybe “deity” is the wrong word. He’ll be like this sort of an icon who put the fun in music and idols.

309: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:28:15.95 ID:0
>>298
To me it’s more like he put the idols in music. I think Tsunku♂ considers himself a music producer more than anything else.

296: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:22:40.73 ID:0
Tsunku was able to be so free because of Pink Lady and, while I don’t want to say it, because of Akimoto in the Onyanko days. Especially Pink Lady’s songs like Monster, Toumei Ningen and Southpaw were just way out there. (laughs)

299: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:24:53.69 ID:0
>>296
Love Machine is similar to Monster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjyjZftpJ1A

306: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:26:54.73 ID:0
Apparently the opening theme of Haruhi used Berryz as an inspiration.

312: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:29:59.68 ID:0
Zappa, Jeff Beck, Ozzy, King Crimson, Nirvana, Primus, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Tchaikovsky and H!P.

326: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:35:30.87 ID:0
At the end of the day we’re all just Tsunku wota.

337: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:42:15.86 ID:0
Seeing this you’ll understand that it’s fundamentally cool music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB18RBhIisE

339: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:43:28.57 ID:0
>>337
First of all, she’s just ridiculously good. (laughs)

342: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:46:30.63 ID:0
>>337
What the hell is up with her suppleness? (laughs)

345: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 10:47:31.86 ID:0
>>337
Looks like Marlena Shaw. She’s cool.

409: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:23:13.10 ID:0
I do have both likes and dislikes when it comes to Tsunku’s songs, but none of them ever feel old for me. Even now I can listen to the early songs no problem, whereas if you listen to Onyanko Club now, many of their songs sound so ancient. That might be the difference between Tsunku who doesn’t think about the times, and Akimoto who doesn’t think about anything but the times.

412: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:24:08.50 ID:0
>>409
Akimoto doesn’t write anything but the lyrics, and besides, the lyrics are close to 30 years old now. Isn’t it obvious that they’d sound old?

397: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:14:47.75 ID:0
He actually is capable of writing normal songs. He just refuses to do so. (laughs)
If you trust the credits, this was Tsunku + Yuuichi.
I want Sayashi and Daaishi to do this.

400: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:16:09.21 ID:0
Inaba-san really did have so much potential.

410: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:23:21.87 ID:0
It’s odd to me how easy H!P’s songs are to listen to. My ears are kind of weak in that I can only really listen to about one album before the insides of my ears start to hurt, but I can listen to H!P for two or three hours without any problem at all. On the other hand, classical or jazz mostly just bores me or makes me fall asleep. H!P is the only thing with just the right, moderate amount of stimulus and no sounds that cause my ears discomfort.

417: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:34:42.73 ID:0
>>410
That’s very interesting.

420: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:35:49.93 ID:0
AKB itself is something innovative, but musically they’re so safe it’s boring. Tsunku gets criticized a lot these days, but ask yourself this: does AKB have anything as high quality as early Musume? Or early Tanpopo or Matsuura? I think the answer is no. I don’t think AKB cares about that kind of stuff much.

435: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:44:30.22 ID:0
It’s kind of pointless to bring up Akimoto in a discussion about idol pop when he can only write lyrics. What he is is really good at creating things; no more, no less. Only the thing about AKB is, because it feels like so much like they bribed their way into where they are right now, that gets them a lot of antis, too.

436: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:44:38.41 ID:0
The songs are good, but what’s wonderful to me is how the lyrics are about love & peace. The average artist offers a narrower viewpoint as they only get as far as the love part, but in Tsunku’s lyrics the love leads into peace, making the songs feel both grand and euphoric. If they were just ordinary love songs, the people not into that kind of thing would feel put off, but when it’s love and peace? Even people like that can listen to them.

441: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:46:11.83 ID:0
Which era of Tsunku are you saying is good? Because for me Tsunku’s songs nowadays are shit and it’s obvious he’s half-assing them.

452: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:50:53.46 ID:0
>>441
All eras of Tsunku♂. Although it might be true that the arrangements aren’t modern enough lately.

446: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:48:12.06 ID:0
Tsunku’s songs right now are too strange and they don’t fit with the times. Maybe they’ll be appreciated ten years from now? (laughs) The problem is that idols kind of need to sell like right now though.

455: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:52:43.94 ID:0
I was shocked the first time I heard Love Machine. I was like, “is this really an idol song?“

467: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:56:03.09 ID:O
I started watching old Berryz PV’s after reading the thread yesterday where that Momoclo wota was struck by how awesome Gag 100 is. They’re all great songs, but more than that, just the simple fact that Tsunku wrote “Semi” is enough for me to keep worshiping him forever.

470: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:57:38.08 ID:0
>>467
Yeah. Seriously, just the fact that Tsunku wrote all those early Berikyuu songs makes him God tier. Even now I still don’t make fun of him, just because of those songs.

474: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 11:59:35.68 ID:0
I only heard Berryz’ debut song afterwards, but it was still startling. I only had this loli image of them so I’d never have thought they’d debuted with a song like that. He must’ve really been quite serious about the group. It also feels like he wrote it while thinking he’s going to keep the group going all the way until the song finally actually fits them.

494: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 12:06:41.80 ID:0
>>474
Ananashi plus the whole first album were both astonishing. The guy’s just crazy. I don’t think anyone else could make an album like that even if they wanted to.

478: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 12:00:57.41 ID:0
If you were to ask which of all H!P units, past or present, offers the closest embodiment of the “Tsunku world“… I think it might well be Berryz.

496: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 12:07:45.21 ID:0
>>478
Yep, Berryz. After them? S/mileage, I think.

481: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 12:01:39.69 ID:0
It’s like with Berikyuu, Tsunku♂ doesn’t feel an urgency to make them a huge success. The songs he writes for them just sound like they’re closer to what he himself personally likes. Particularly for Berryz, it’s like he just wants to create the type of vocal group he likes. That’s why there’s so much emphasis on their singing.

512: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 12:32:13.79 ID:0
It’s quite common to hear about people who like Western music getting hooked on H!P. Maybe the fact that some foreigners, too, end up hooked on H!P means that there is a connection of some kind.

520: 名無し募集中。。。 2012/02/25(土) 12:42:05.83 ID:0
I want Tsunku♂ and his arrangers to keep listening to more and more of all kinds of different music and keep throwing their best at us. I still expect a lot of great things from them.

Henkka: I’ve mentioned I enjoy translating threads like this, but that is an understatement. You don’t understand. I literally almost get sexual pleasure from threads like this. Almost.

Optional: In these threads 2ch often talks about what artists they like outside of H!P. I find that stuff pretty interesting, but simple lists of just names can be boring to go through. Thus, if you want, post one song (just one) of whatever non-idol music you enjoy listening to lately so we can get some idea of what types of music H!P fans, or at least the readers of this site, like. Here, I’ll start.

Source: http://oha2.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-17.html