1: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:14:11.67 0.net
Source: Twitter.
2: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:16:23.11 0.net
@haroneiture: @tsunkuboy Wouldn’t you agree that all your songs as of late tend to be quite dark? I have to be honest: it can be a downer and it’s not very fun as a listener. I want Morning Musume to do the more cheerful kinds of songs they had in the past, like LOVE Machine and The☆Peace!
@tsunkuboy: Yep. But see, I do also offer them brighter, more fun material every time. (laughs)
12: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:22:15.78 0.net
I thought this was fake, but damn, he actually said it!
22: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:24:22.97 0.net
I wonder just what sort of hidden meaning is included in that “(laughs)” of his…?
34: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:26:24.65 0.net
It’s obviously a strained laugh. Like, “there’s nothing I can do about it.“
15: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:22:55.96 0.net
As expected of the shitty office.
20: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:24:04.41 0.net
Beginning this year, it looks like Terada will be more active when it comes to airing his grievances towards the office.
23: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:24:24.39 0.net
Ah. I knew it. It’s too unnatural when you think about how there are now zero of those really energetic songs they used to have.
25: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:24:52.66 0.net
The adverse effects of Cool Hello.
30: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:25:25.37 0.net
I guess even Tsunku doesn’t like to be criticized when it’s purely the office’s fault.
105: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:34:10.83 0.net
>>30
Well duh. (laughs)
38: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:27:07.74 0.net
Oh man… (･ิω･ิ)
44: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:27:44.11 0.net
I feel so bad for Terada. (cries)
42: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:27:42.44 0.net
This is an SOS from Terada to us.
43: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:27:43.48 0.net
They OK’d Utakata and yet they turn down Tsunku. So it was all just the company’s scheme to make us think Tsunku is no longer able to write fun songs like that?
49: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:28:24.10 0.net
>>43
Pretty much.
48: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:28:02.42 0.net
They could’ve just asked Tsunku♂ to write a fun song like Utakata if that’s what they wanted…
50: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:28:24.91 0.net
If he’s offering them songs like that every time, then they should at least give them to some groups other than Musume. It’s such a waste.
52: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:28:33.80 0.net
More and more they’re trying to dilute the Tsunku color in H!P.
It’s only obvious they’d do this.
56: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:29:00.52 0.net
Bakusute and his anime songs and stuff all had those Tsunku characteristics of his happy songs. I’d been wondering why none of them were ending up at H!P… I couldn’t have guessed they were all internally rejected. That sucks.
58: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:29:11.79 0.net
The most cheerful song released last year was maybe °C’s Seidenki, though it wasn’t a Terada song. They seem to let Hoshibe do all those types of songs now.
61: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:29:33.16 0.net
All his happier songs are going to be released as one big batch on the next Kenshuusei album.
64: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:29:45.84 0.net
Post some non-H!P songs that Tsunku♂ has written lately.
I think I remember there being some really good ones in there…
251: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:52:18.93 0.net
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKTA3Hr_Ol4
755: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 11:12:06.60 0.net
>>251
Man, this is such a waste.
They should at least let the Kenshuusei have these songs.
I don’t want Tsunku♂’s songs to be leaking outside of H!P…
776: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 11:15:06.04 0.net
>>755
This.
Let Tsubaki have them.
It really is such a waste to let non-H!P artists have songs like these.
67: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:30:07.85 0.net
So it was all lies when people were talking about how he’d become unable to write cheerful songs after his illness.
70: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:30:09.81 0.net
I knew it.
Damn this shitty office.
72: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:30:44.42 0.net
I wonder if it’s because the members know what’s going on that some of them make it a point of advertising their “pro-Tsunku” opinions on their blogs.
84: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:32:08.57 0.net
They have to bring Tsunku back as the producer.
88: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:32:40.88 0.net
He must get orders to write songs that fit Cool Hello.
Even though he’s still able to write songs like Yattaruchan…
Source: Bakusute.
85: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:32:34.19 0.net
He is their ex-general producer — at least let him decide the direction of a couple of songs every once in a while.
97: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:33:18.88 0.net
It’s Hashimoto who decides on the songs, right?
So it’s Hashimoto’s plan to not let Musume sing any more cheerful songs.
92: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:32:58.09 0.net
Look, it’s not that I’m an apologist for the shitty office or for Hashimoto. I’m just saying: the fact that a song is “cheerful” doesn’t instantly make it “good.” He could write a bunch of cheerful songs, but if they’re all shit, then what’s the point? You haven’t even heard these songs that are being rejected, and yet it’s like you’ve already made up your minds: “cheerful songs = amazing songs.”
102: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:33:48.62 0.net
>>92
Hey, Pyokotra was shit and I still want to hear more songs like that.
93: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:33:00.92 0.net
I just want to hear more of those stupid Tsunku songs again.
114: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:35:08.46 0.net
And here I was thinking Terada had simply become unable to write cheerful songs because of his illness. Terada, yurushite nyan!
206: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:45:25.60 0.net
H!P in general has such few cheerful songs these days.
194: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:43:52.50 0.net
Terada never has the opportunity to make statements like this, so he must be thankful to that guy for prodding him about it. And we, of course, would never miss such a sign from Terada.
208: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:45:33.44 0.net
When you think of Terada’s production pace up until now, it’s pretty easy to see that for all the songs of his that were OK’d, there were many times more songs that weren’t accepted.
290: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 09:58:13.74 0.net
I wonder if they used all the songs Tsunku wrote back when he was the producer?
304: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 10:00:45.57 0.net
>>290
In his business book, “Ichiban ni Naru Hito,” he apparently wrote that “I’ve never discarded any song — every song that I can use, I do.” But you might want to double-check this for yourself.
353: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 10:09:54.68 0.net
When you think of the sheer number of all the bad Terada songs up until now, it can’t be helped that they’re rejecting so many of his songs now. That being said, if it’s simply a matter of them being songs that aren’t fit to be singles, they should at least keep consistently releasing them as album or coupling songs.
2. カラフル名無しさん 2017年01月03日 10:00 ID:QnsqETxm0
Agreed. Stop screwing around and bring back the B-sides already. Who cares how crazy and Tsunku-like the songs are if they’re only B-sides?
380: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 10:14:06.80 0.net
He contributes so much material, and yet, only about four of those many songs of his are released as singles each year. I feel bad for Tsunku…
1. カラフル名無しさん 2017年01月03日 09:57 ID:IJM7vQBM0
I’m sorry for doubting you, Tsunku.
I thought you just weren’t capable of writing songs like that anymore…
20. カラフル名無しさん 2017年01月04日 00:15 ID:..leRH770
It really is undeniable that ever since H!P became Hashi Pro, the quality of their songs has fallen.
8. カラフル名無しさん 2017年01月03日 16:13 ID:N6dO80vg0
It’s true that songs like Pyokotra are hard to get if you’re not a seasoned fan already. As such, it might not be the best choice for a single and I get that it’s important to keep things like that in mind on the production-side.
But it’s also true that there are songs which only Tsunku could write, and without those Tsunku-flavored songs, you can’t in good faith call H!P “H!P.” I wish they were more proactive in accepting those kinds of songs from him, even if only as album songs.
19. カラフル名無しさん 2017年01月04日 00:10 ID:.O2hCLbg0
But he’s also written lots of amazing songs in recent years that aren’t happy. Yuugure, Tokisora, Vision, Tsumetai Kaze, etc. What a fantastic songwriter.
352: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/02(月) 10:09:44.66 0.net
I have a Tsunku deficiency.
I need more Tsunku!
One of those rejected(?) cheerful Tsunku♂ songs is released!
1: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/08(日) 23:55:03.01 0.net
“Utae! Ai no Koyaku” / opening song of anime “Idol Jihen”
5: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/08(日) 23:58:17.31 0.net
That sounds like Pyokotra. (laughs)
4: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/08(日) 23:57:54.01 0.net
H!P needs songs like this.
I’m begging you, Terada…
6: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/08(日) 23:58:45.03 0.net
This is full of things that current H!P lacks.
8: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/08(日) 23:59:57.40 0.net
The lyrics are great. They’re so remarkably uncool.
9: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/09(月) 00:00:12.20 0.net
Hmm… Yeah, this is a bit different from what I’m looking for.
10: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/09(月) 00:00:18.97 0.net
Must be Ookubo Kaoru’s work.
26: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/09(月) 00:12:42.05 0.net
This could be a track off Smile Sensation.
32: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/09(月) 00:15:20.75 0.net
>>26
It does sound like Yattaruchan and 2nd gen S/mileage.
87: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/09(月) 00:45:46.97 0.net
Sounds like something the Kenshuusei might do.
101: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/09(月) 00:53:37.83 0.net
It’s so H!P-like. (laughs)
Especially the chorus.
230: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/09(月) 03:16:11.22 0.net
H!P needs Tsunku♂.
78: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/09(月) 00:41:30.17 0.net
More than the opening, it’s actually the ending that’s pretty good.
114: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/09(月) 01:02:51.76 0.net
The ending is easily of the quality where I wish H!P — or Musume — was singing it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNoG5EVl0sk
144: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/09(月) 01:12:42.91 0.net
>>114
I thought it was “meh” at first, but as I listened to it a further two or three times to find out if that was really the case, I now actually quite like it. (laughs) Though I’m not sure if it’s really a good idea to use a song like this for an anime, when it’s something that requires repeated listens in order to appreciate it. (laughs) But the opening sounds like Musume, and the ending might be sung by Tsubaki or J=J.
142: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/09(月) 01:11:57.33 0.net
I suppose Cool Hello just doesn’t need these kinds of cheerful songs anymore.
127: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/09(月) 01:07:16.20 0.net
For better or worse, Tsunku is the type of person who never compromises. He always writes songs that vocalists will have a hard time singing if they’re not acutely aware of the 16-beat.
130: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/09(月) 01:08:36.80 0.net
Songs that are hard to sing is another Tsunku characteristic.
125: 名無し募集中。。。 2017/01/09(月) 01:07:00.43 0.net
We’re waiting for you, Tsunku♂.
Sources: http://colorhello.blog.jp/archives/1063487879.html, http://colorhello.blog.jp/archives/1063617964.html
I enjoyed those two ‘rejected’ songs more than most of H!P’s output in the last six months.
Well Japanese talent agencies do have a tendency to be run by self obsessed clueless dimwits who aren’t above dragging their whole business down with them in some petty rivalry.
The sad part is that some of Tsunku’s recent songs that weren’t rejected wer simply not that good, like Just Try and Sou Janai.
I mean it’s okay that H!P isn’t 100% Tsunku anymore. But to make it 100% un-Tsunkuish is pretty boring.
Maybe I’ll got a lot of “don’t like” thumbs, but… I’m cool-song type, so I like Cool Hello LOL …well, I like songs like Utakata too, it’s a cheering song but is fun and nice… I can’t stand childish cheering songs as most of the songs of another idols groups…
Tsunku has “that thing”…it’s something that can make childish songs sounds great like S/mileage’s…they had childish cheering songs too, but with a great rithm and lyrics. I love it!
Tsunku’s not traditional idol rithms, bring me here! I love H!P cool songs then and now. By the way, It would be fresh to have more cheerings songs (Insist a lot of time with cool songs is tired) …but not like that anime song *itch*
**sorry about my english :v
I kind of feel like crying now… This is the guy who created H!P from nothing into the major Idol label it is now and they just try to erase his presence from the organization completely… It his songs that created the fanbase so they should at least take a few songs he gives out so the OG fans can have that nostalgic feeling of “Ahhh this is a song that can only be written by Tsunku” feeling… But like others have said, his music has no place in this Cool Hello era of H!P, the agency is fully against the nonsensical cute songs of the past
I really like Tsunku, not only as an artist, but as this awesome guy we all admire, on the other hand, I don’t mind the fact that he’s not writing songs for H!P anymore. Hello!Project will always carry his legacy, and that’s enough. But I’d be lying if I said that I don’t miss songs like Momoiro Sparkling or Gag 100kaibun Aishite Kudasai – these are stuff that only Tsunku could ever write.
What a shitty office, really…
Going by a single listen, the Idol Jihen OP is quite anisong-like and I might have missed the Tsukuness. The ED is very obvious though.
>15 THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
>43 ;___;
>50 Speaks the truth.
>92 Has a point, but it’s Tsunku we’re talking about so… if there were cheerful yet bad songs in those “batches”, it’d probably be only one out of (whatever number of cheerful songs he’s offered them).
Aaah, this is so sad! I mean, I’ve liked most of the songs non-Tsunku stuff H!P has released so far, but I also miss those cheerful songs! They’re like a breathe of fresh air. Uruwashi no Camellia was so cuuuute and nice (though it is a non-Tsunku song), it made me realize H!P needs more of those songs nowadays.
“He contributes so much material, and yet, only about four of those many songs of his are released as singles each year.”
Well that’s a BIT of exaggeration. He’s still the most prolific single H!P songwriter. Looking at the combined full years of 2015 and 2016, and ignoring things like cover versions of old songs, I see 2 album songs, 20 A-sides (split among 12 singles), and one originally released as a digital single.
Of course the direction of the H!P is very dynamic. I can see since Colorful Era, Cool-Hello is the direction of H!P. Tend to produce more “Cool” songs rather than “Cheer” songs.
I have to say, Tsunku-san is better this way, he produce some good songs (like Utakata, Jealousy-Jealousy) rather than produce all songs like in Platinum days.
But…Tsunku wasn’t involved with Utakata…?
Tsunku wasn’t involved with Utakata
Tsunku is/was the soul of H!P, and it’s dumb try to deny that, serious. But, aside of this, it’s not that the recent songs are bad, and some variety in the songwriting is a good thing, but every damn single they’re releasing now are starting to get previsible in an annoying way. Also, the lack of B-sides and albums are really getting me on the nerves.
Henkka, I don’t see you doing requests often so if you don’t you’re free to ignore this – I just heard from other fans that there’s a lot going on in 2ch right now about a fan harassing Airi about her cleaning habits “down there” at a handshake event. Apparently Airi gave him a pretty straight response, and now fans are blasting Airi for being “lewd” among other things? My Japanese isn’t very great so I can’t get a lot of it on my own, figured it may be something you may have an interest in translating (or at least checking out to see if it’s worth doing so)? Maybe other fans would be interested in the story? Not sure whether the fan was making it up or not, which could be a possibility. Just a suggestion. :)
In regards to this post, I miss Tsunku’s songs and his sound… his songs are really fantastic, almost if not all the songs he’s had go through for H!P since he stepped down I’ve enjoyed… Hopefully if fans complain enough we’ll see him return? I definitely don’t think he left because he really wanted to – I think it was a little more than “suggested” to him.
HE DID IDOL JIHEN??? I HAD NO IDEA!!
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