Wota in Translation

So, about Taiyou to Ciscomoon…

1: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)21:55:27 ID:???
Educate a newbie. What were their fans like? Who was the most popular member? Feels like it might’ve been Kominato.

2: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)21:56:21 ID:???
I… really don’t know anything about them. Help us out, old-timers!

3: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)22:04:14 ID:???
The internet wasn’t that popular back then so this is just how it seemed to me at the time, but their fans were basically just the same people who were also supporters of Morning Musume. I watched them on ASAYAN all the way from before their members were selected, to them recording their songs, to the member reduction and name change. They had roughly the same amount of airtime on the show as Morning Musume did so it’s only natural that the Musume wota — or rather, the viewers — would cheer them on equally as much. That’s the way I remember it.

14: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)22:24:13 ID:???
>>3
Oh, I see. That’s kind of hard to imagine with all the lolicon wota these days. (laughs)

15: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)22:34:31 ID:???
>>14
It’s not that they had exactly the same number of fans of course. It was Musume > Taishisu, but at the time it was like ASAYAN was Musume — there was no one who wouldn’t watch ASAYAN if they liked Musume, so it was only inevitable that those people would also see Taishisu’s struggles, hear their songs, etc, considering they were also produced by Tsunku and all. To put it in a nutshell, it was easy to get interested about them.

4: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)22:04:48 ID:???
Their songs were great. Their debut is an awesome album.

7: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)22:08:28 ID:???
Sorry, I only became a fan with the 10th gen joining. I can’t even tell apart Melon Kinenbi from Taiyou to Ciscomoon.

6: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)22:07:47 ID:???
I wonder who the most popular one was… I think it might’ve been Shinoda.

8: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)22:14:09 ID:???
The popularity was probably something like:
Inaba > Kominato > RuRu > Shinoda.
Inaba was a member of Osaka Performance Doll and she used to even be on a game show with Ijuuin.

9: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)22:15:04 ID:???
>>8
Seriously? Inaba was the one I cared about the least back then. (laughs)

10: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)22:20:01 ID:???
Really? I was sure Kominato would’ve been no. 1 by far.

By the way, I personally fell for RuRu when I was looking at some old pictures of her.
She has a great figure, she sings well, she’s beautiful and she’s just all around really talented.

16: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)22:36:31 ID:???
>>9>>10
Yep, I think that’s probably the way it was. Inaba was the quickest in terms of learning their songs and dances. They were saying she was too good even, so they made her Nakazawa’s manager. Kominato, on the other hand, was a good singer but I remember her having trouble with their dances since she was inexperienced. They even released one song without her because her dancing was so bad.

18: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)22:45:23 ID:???
>>16
I’ve always wondered why they did that one song with just the three of them. So it was because she was so bad at dancing, huh.

19: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)22:47:43 ID:???
Inaba becoming Nakazawa’s manager and Kominato being taken off that song were written about in an ASAYAN book. It was like pro wrestling back then.

11: つんく回復祈願中。。。◆n/7caLIPGc 2014/04/26(土)22:20:29 ID:???
I remember some weird, world-famous foreign(?) producer crying because they were so touched seeing a performance of Everyday Everywhere.

12: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)22:21:33 ID:???
Are there any videos of Taishisu singing songs from other H!P groups?

13: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)22:22:45 ID:???
I remember being happy with how the singles would come with a cool remix of the previous one. I still have them all at home. (laughs)

17: 名無しさん 2014/04/26(土)22:43:47 ID:???
I realized how ridiculous I’d been all along after coming to know Taishisu, being so obsessed about my idols being virgins.

24: 名無しさん 2014/04/27(日)00:08:16 ID:???
H!P was viewed as just this half-serious group of idols at the time it started, but Taishisu, on the other hand, was created to be not an idol group but a dance & vocal unit. I don’t think the members individually had that many fans.

30: おーぷん＠名無しさん 2014/04/29(火)22:32:04 ID:???
I heard that RuRu is famous in Taiwan whereas in Japan she’s like “who’s that?” league.

1. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2014年04月27日 17:36
I did know about them since Musume were so popular, but actually seeing how great of a singer RuRu was on ASAYAN was a huge shock for me. I’s not like I knew much about singers or anything — Kate Bush was pretty much the extent of my knowledge back then — but I was still thinking to myself “holy crap, she’s amazing!”

2. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2014年04月27日 18:49
RuRu’s a good singer, but she did occasionally have trouble with keeping time when singing in Japanese.

3. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2014年04月28日 09:03
Honda RuRu had lots of fans back then, but I was always more about Kominato mama. Ever since her my oshi members have always been the ones who give off a sort of feeling of maternal love.

T&C’s Kominato Miwa was cute, right?

1: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 18:18:15.24 0.net
The others in her group only helped to make her stand out even more.

5: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 18:32:04.52 0.net
Yeah. Especially considering she’s a mom.

7: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 18:32:22.35 0.net
She would’ve been my oshi if she hadn’t already been married. Well, it deserves to be said that she’s also the person who taught me the greatness of married women though.

2: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 18:20:36.35 0.net
I first heard one of their songs at last year’s Summer H!P concert after which I checked out their PV’s and thought she was cute.

12: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 18:36:38.35 0.net
She really does look lovely.

3: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 18:30:02.28 0.net
Is she the one that looks like Tamura?

8: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 18:32:53.53 0.net
Kominato-san is the leftmost one here.

15: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 18:43:40.26 0.net
I’m always reminded of this girl when I see Tamura Meimei.

16: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 18:51:48.00 0.net
>>15
I wonder why. They don’t even look that similar to me… >>3

17: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 18:52:55.33 0.net
They’re both the youngest in the group and they both kind of have that small animal-like quality to them.

18: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 18:53:20.07 0.net
Maybe it’s their yaeba.

20: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 19:04:17.14 0.net
H!P used to be okay with members having kids?

21: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 19:08:38.20 0.net
She is the only member to have had a child before becoming a member.

31: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 21:37:52.19 0.net
Her child is already around senior high school age, right?

24: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 19:33:17.48 0.net
Hanagasa Ondo / Kominato Miwa (ex-Taiyou to Ciscomoon)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sISfg9Jf0qk

30: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 20:24:03.39 0.net
She’s the one who did the fakes in Gatamekira at the Countdown Live. She was the only Taishisu member with a high voice.

Taiyou to Ciscomoon’s best song is…

1: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:16:03.32 0
Sunrise Soredemo Hi wa Noboru

8: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:19:54.62 P
>>1
That’s a good one.

2: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:17:11.17 0
Darattaararaa!

3: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:17:19.21 i
Only newbies would answer “Everyday Everywhere.”

4: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:17:51.86 0
Mata Yacchatta ~Shibuya de ALL no Hi~

5: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:18:04.93 0
Serious reply: Magic of Love.

22: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:45:40.34 0
>>5
I first heard this at H!P Concert. This is really good.

6: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:19:18.95 0
I think it was Marui Taiyou? Hearing it sung by such young voices when they performed it at the ’05 H!P Concert with everyone (including the Eggs?)… that’s when I realized just how good of a song it actually was.

12: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:21:37.49 0
>>6
That was an ending theme for Majutsushi Orphen, right?

7: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:19:33.92 0
Interlude 1 ~Breath~

10: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:20:55.43 0
Pu-pu-pu-propose

11: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:21:00.25 0
Get on my Love

13: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:22:34.22 0
Magic of Love

14: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:24:23.81 0
Uchuu de La Ta Ta

17: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:27:36.99 0
>>14
This has to be the one.

15: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:24:49.26 0

16: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:27:10.14 0
Wow wow wow ahahan…

18: や 2013/12/08(日) 23:28:33.84 0
Has to be Gatamekira.

20: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:38:31.87 0
First one that comes to mind is YES! Shiawase.

23: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:46:25.15 0
Uchuu de La Ta Ta. Obviously.

24: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:48:45.60 i
I first heard Everyday Everywhere when it was sung by Ai-Reina. Seriously such an awesome song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aObEcdJE7kI

25: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:51:14.26 0
Basically all of them are so good, they could still be singing these songs now.

26: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:52:52.61 0
I remember thinking “who are these aunties…?” when I was seeing them while I was still in elementary school, but listening to it now, it’s great stuff.

30: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:56:06.34 0
I’ll get to see them again on New Year’s but I’m feeling a little conflicted about it since they can’t possibly do better than their last reunion.

34: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:59:45.59 0
>>30
I never saw them when they were active or when they did their latest reunion, so I’m going to a live viewing just to see them.

32: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:58:18.86 0
Gatamekira is way too cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR2lFu-1sKo&start=120

33: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/08(日) 23:58:28.50 0
It feels to me like J=J picked up where T&C left off.

36: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/09(月) 00:04:37.37 0
>>33
Ijiwaru Shinaide Dakishimete yo definitely gave me that feeling, too. I hope they keep going with this current style.

37: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/09(月) 00:04:53.61 0
Shinoda is more beautiful now that she’s put on some years.

38: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/09(月) 00:06:38.38 0
Magic of Love. Even listening to it now it’s an amazing song that hasn’t grown stale at all. Compared to that, something like Tsuki to Taiyou sounds like such a golden oldie.

39: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/09(月) 00:08:29.57 0
>>38
Magic of Love is nice. Lately Tsunku seems to have mistaken “adult-like” to mean “sexy,” but back in the day he could write adult-like songs that were just fun.

40: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/09(月) 00:12:45.88 0
I like this style of music so I was happy to hear J=J’s Ijidaki. S/mileage might’ve properly established their own identity, but they’ve just started getting weird lately which sucks. I’m afraid to see what’ll happen to Juice when they come out with another new group.

41: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/12/09(月) 00:13:58.69 0
It’s got to be Magic of Love.

1. 名無しプロジェクト 2013年12月18日 00:12 ID:um5t783Y0
Maybe Mahiru no Shinkirou. Especially RuRu’s lines give me the chills.

2. 名無しプロジェクト 2013年12月18日 00:29 ID:mGQPDrfU0
I like Tsuki to Taiyou the best.
Kominato-san seems like the type to be well-liked by wota.

3. 名無しプロジェクト 2013年12月18日 01:03 ID:UxW6eMuC0
If I had to name just one, I’d say Uchuu de La Ta Ta. Runner-ups would be Tsuki to Taiyou, Mata Yacchatta ~Shibuya de ALL no Hi~, Don’t STOP Renaichuu and ENDLESS LOVE, I think. But that’s just me. Taishisu has so many good songs so I’ll be glad if Juice=Juice goes that route.

So I just heard “Magic of Love”
for the first time today…

1: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/16(金) 20:45:41.37 0.net
And it’s such an amazing song. Every now and then Tsunku really shows that he knows his stuff.

16: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/16(金) 21:02:31.85 0.net
I’m not >>1, but I had this song playing in my head all day today.

17: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/16(金) 21:06:30.69 0.net
But nowadays if you say “Magic of Love”, the first thing people will think of is Perfume…

31: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 00:37:54.77 i.net
>>17
Gave it a listen and it was boring.

5: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/16(金) 20:47:54.92 0.net
By the way, I thought the heavyweights’ version of it at last year’s H!P Concert was awesome.

8: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/16(金) 20:52:57.68 0.net
The member selections tend to feel a bit off when they do shuffles and it’s not like I had any specific oshi in that group or anything, but I really liked that one, too. I thought they all sang really well and Sugaya in particular was incredible.

13: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/16(金) 21:00:24.68 0.net
It’s hard to say whose cover of DON’T STOP Renaichuu I liked better: the Goto-Inaba one, or the Natsuyaki/Airi/Saho one. It’s not like they were extraordinarily awesome or anything, but I liked both their versions of it.

14: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/16(金) 21:00:28.01 0.net
I wish he’d write songs like that again for °C-ute or Berryz. The members have gotten older and they really don’t need to be singing about little girls’ feelings anymore.

22: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/16(金) 21:24:11.66 i.net
There must be some °C-ute wota who don’t even realize that YES! Shiawase and ENDLESS LOVE aren’t their songs.

23: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/16(金) 21:33:25.68 0.net
Those people aren’t real wota.

33: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 04:46:51.84 0.net
Wow, JJ covered Taishisu!

35: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/17(土) 05:15:20.96 0.net
So Karin took Inaba’s parts, huh.

1. 名無しプロジェクト 2014年05月18日 03:43 ID:VyGwiQhr0
Taiyou to Ciscomoon had the best vocals of any H!P group past or present. One of the rare groups where all of the members were good singers. Every now and then they’ll do covers of their songs which are fine in their own right, but at the end of the day they don’t hold a candle to the originals. I don’t get why people are going on about the vocal prowess of current H!P.

2. 名無しプロジェクト 2014年05月18日 09:57 ID:OlgKzRHP0
Taiyou to Ciscomoon on the Countdown Live Blu-ray were awesome. Matsuura was great of course, but I was expecting just as much so she didn’t surprise me. Taishisu, on the other hand, really did. They could both dance and sing and the songs were good, too. It made me think they could’ve really gotten big if it wasn’t for their looks. (laughs)

I was still young back when I was watching Momusu on TV and when I saw Taishisu, I remember just thinking to myself “Who are these girls? Another derivative unit?” I really regret it now.

Henkka: Finally, some recent T&C-related tweets from Kominato. Because why not?

カウントダウンまであと3日？はぁ…。( ノД`)…
色々心配…。みんなビックリしないでね。
信号のシスコムーン！( ・∇・) pic.twitter.com/1cFIMM3oMx

— 小湊美和 (@komix215) December 28, 2013

Just three more days until the Countdown Live? Aah… ( ノД`)…
I’m still feeling very anxious about it… don’t be surprised, guys.
Here’s traffic lights Ciscomoon! ( ・∇・)

久しぶりの太陽とシスコムーンでした！( ・∇・)ちゃんちゃん！ pic.twitter.com/Chh8C4hYBr

— 小湊美和 (@komix215) January 2, 2014

Taiyou to Ciscomoon just had their first performance in a long while! ( ・∇・)

昨日はカウコンお疲れ会！だったんだけど、美帆ちゃんの都合がつかず残念。あっちゃんと乾杯の練習！！( ・∇・)次は3人揃うといいな！ pic.twitter.com/JcM9egq87u

— 小湊美和 (@komix215) January 19, 2014

We had a wrap-up party for Countdown Live yesterday! It was too bad Miho couldn’t make it. Thus, me and Acchan did some drinking practice just by the two of us! ( ・∇・) Next time I hope we can go by all three of us!

あちゅこばーすでー飲み会！でしたん！
凄い沢山集まったのよ！( ・∇・)
とりまシスコムーン－1

私が残念な写真だったってことは、言わずもがな…。( ´_ゝ`) pic.twitter.com/IYIFQaaxcn

— 小湊美和 (@komix215) March 15, 2014

We had a drinking party for Achuko’s birthday! There were so many people there! ( ・∇・) For now, here’s a picture of Ciscomoon. Needless to say, it wasn’t a good picture for me… ( ´_ゝ`)

今日は、美帆ちゃんの誕生日！１日早いけど、集まってお誕生会でした！！
すごいケーキだよ！みてみて！！ pic.twitter.com/ndEFnAxTVb

— 小湊美和 (@komix215) May 17, 2014

Today is Miho-chan’s birthday! It was a day early, but we got together to celebrate it yesterday! Look at this awesome cake we got!

美帆ちゃんのお誕生日ケーキは、和菓子で出来てます！ちなみに日の丸付けたレオタード姿の美帆ちゃんと、
向かって左があっちゃんで、右がコミです(・∀・) pic.twitter.com/7a8m56FCq1

— 小湊美和 (@komix215) May 18, 2014

Miho-chan’s birthday cake is made of wagashi! By the way, the one wearing the leotard with the Japanese flag on it is Miho-chan, Acchan is on the left and Komi is on the right. (・∀・)

上海のルルからLINEがきた( ´艸｀)
元気です！

— 小湊美和 (@komix215) June 3, 2014

I just got a LINE message from RuRu in Shanghai. ( ´艸｀) She says she’s doing good!

あ！4・21だぬん！祝15周年！！
解散しててもデビュー日は記念日☆

— 小湊美和 (@komix215) April 21, 2014

Ah! It’s April 21st! Our 15th anniversary!
We might have broken up, but our debut day is still a very special anniversary. ☆

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