1: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 21:15:43.68 0
Retweeted by Fukuda Maro:
“I seriously want each and every otaku who lectures idols to read this like a thousand times… ?”
— くま林 (@kumakumarinko01) 2019/1/20
Don’t Lecture Idols
Mofuku-chan: Don’t lecture them. “I liked that one thing you did yesterday, but that other thing wasn’t so good.” There’s seriously nothing good about saying stuff like that to idols!
Yoshida Go: If it’s not positive in nature, then just don’t say it.
Mofuku-chan: When you praise them for the things they did right, that’s what’s going to allow them to grow. As a producer, I’m the person who will do all that scolding for you. So please do not lecture them.
Yoshida: It’s such a commonplace thing, too. I mean, the wota who think, “I’m the only person who dares to scold her for the things she did wrong.“
Mofuku-chan: “The condition of your voice wasn’t too great yesterday.” That kind of stuff. They say it with this self-satisfied look on their faces. Seriously, just stop it! The idols will absolutely hate you if you say stuff like that. And that’s a promise. If they did something wrong, then guess what: they already know!
Yoshida: Or stuff like, “hey, the condition of your skin is kind of bad today, isn’t it?” (laughs)
Mofuku-chan: They already know that!
Yoshida: “Having a bad hair day?” or whatever. Just don’t say it.
Mofuku-chan: It’s the role of people like me to tell them that. So, again, you the fans shouldn’t be saying that stuff to them. It hurts them so much. You wouldn’t believe how deeply it can hurt a girl who’s going through puberty when you tell them stuff like that. It’s as if you were breaking a huge glass into a million pieces. Please handle them with absolute care. Because they’re flowers. Treat them as princesses. Tell them how beautiful they are… how cute they are… how lovely they are. Always give them those kind words so that one day they will bloom. Just… take it easy. Do not lecture them.
Yoshida: Our only job as fans is to give them that support; to love them.
Mofuku-chan: I really do think so. All those harsh comments and all the stuff that’s kind of difficult to phrase well, let me be the one to tell them all of that in your stead. Backstage. Leave it all to me. I’m sure even the stuff that I tell them hurts them. It must make them have all kinds of thoughts. But I’m going to try to tell them the best I can. So please: you just do the praising.
Yoshida: Well said. (laughs)
Mofuku-chan: There’s stuff that’s difficult even for me to say to them. I can’t always just praise them every time. But you can — at handshake events or whatever. That’s really what I hope the fans would all do.
52. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年01月22日 22:06
I guess this is from when Mofuku-chan was a guest on Yoshida Go-san’s Showroom.
4: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 21:18:14.47 0
I do say stuff about them on Twitter and on here, but never to their face.
13: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 21:31:15.39 0
Maro must’ve hated being told stuff like that.
Too late to worry about it now though.
19: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 21:40:19.49 0
The longer some old guy keeps talking to a young girl, the easier it becomes for him to switch into that lecturing mode.
29: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 21:57:17.71 0
If you want to read from people lecturing or trash-talking them, just go to 2chan. Don’t go and do that stuff in-person.
30: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 21:57:30.00 0
I bet there’s something that makes you feel “special” about pointing out their faults — unlike all the other wota who just praise them. All those small fry wota ought to just shut their fucking mouths.
37: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 22:01:56.06 0
Read 2chan and you realize something: anyone can criticize others, but you have to be a real fan in order to properly praise someone. So you need to praise them more and more. Make those idols feel good about themselves.
44: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 22:05:08.87 0
You even hear this stuff on their radio shows. It seems to be a pretty commonly held belief that if you praise them for something, you need to criticize them about something for an equal amount. You can seriously just tell how the whole atmosphere becomes rotten when they read stuff like that on-air.
46: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 22:05:25.94 0
I get fans telling the idols about how their voice wasn’t in a good condition, just because they’re worried about them. But I bet even that only hurts the idols.
69: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 22:21:08.48 0
It’s only to be expected that you’re going to be told all kinds of things if you put yourself out there. If you don’t want that, then the only thing you can do is just stay home all day.
75: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 22:23:06.23 0
I bet the wota who lecture idols feel like they’re somehow helping “raise” them. But in reality, they’re only making these girls hate them. (laughs)
100: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 22:37:26.75 0
There are seriously wota out there who lecture idols like that? I can’t believe it. What the hell are these people thinking, getting the wrong idea like that?
138: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 23:22:43.05 0
You often see this stuff in YouTube comments — these people who seem to have this weird sense of duty where they think, “if I don’t cricitize these idols, the group and the office as a whole isn’t going to get any better!” Then that leads to the atmosphere in the comment section worsening. It’s really no different than if it was some antis talking. And the stuff they criticize these idols for is always something completely arbitrary that’s pretty much just something that comes down to personal preference.
148: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 23:30:43.07 0
This problem would be resolved instantly if they stopped doing handshake events. (laughs)
188: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/22(火) 00:26:10.50 0
Paying actual money to be able to lecture these girls… Just how sad and pathetic is that?
1. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年01月22日 02:48
Akashiya Sanma: “The people who get pissed off and angry at others like that must think of themselves as being so high and mighty.“
9. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年01月22日 05:57
Wow, so as a fan I’m not even allowed to voice my concerns? Sure, the people who say stuff about them to their faces aren’t right in the head, but it should be alright for me to say how I feel online. Only saying stuff that is positive — is that the only acceptable way of being a fan?
13. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年01月22日 06:21
You wouldn’t like it if you saw people saying negative stuff about you. Although yes, as public entertainers they’re probably somewhat expecting it already. But fan or not, just because you’re speaking online it doesn’t give you the right to just say whatever.
15. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年01月22日 07:42
You saying it should be alright for you to just say whatever you want if it’s on the internet shows how deeply-ingrained this problem is.
12. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年01月22日 06:12
It’s true that when you attend handshake or cheki events, you get to see these people who go, “I know everything about idols. I know everything about you.” It’s like they think of themselves as the producer as they lecture these idols. It makes me feel embarrassed for them. It’s just like with the “jumpers” — those guys are so lost in their own world where they’re trying their hardest to say, “look how much I love you.” And yet, they don’t notice how badly they’re hated; how much of a nuisance they are.
26. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年01月22日 11:40
Most of the discussion is about older guys saying this stuff, but the female wota — who you’re seeing more of nowadays — are pretty bad, too. A lot of them think you’re doing these idols harm if you only praise them, so they have this stance of, “let’s help them fix everything that is bad about them!” Moreover, they have this very strange sense of confidence in that they couldn’t possibly be considered a nuisance, just because of the fact that they’re female wota.
63. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年01月25日 06:33
As a female wota myself, I can’t believe there are actually female wota like that out there. That’s disgusting.
44. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年01月22日 18:08
I can’t help but laugh at the people in this thread who are trying so hard to justify the act of lecturing these idols. Sure, watching over the growth process of idols is one of the true pleasures of enjoying them, but it’s so crazy how there are probably people out there who think they’re the ones actually “raising” them.
48. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年01月22日 20:33
If you’re someone who lectures idols, you should quit being a fan.
You have no duty or obligation to them.
53. ℃-uteな名無しさん 2019年01月22日 22:49
You’re their fan — not their producer! The only thing you can do for them is to support them and maybe help create an environment where it’s easy for new fans to get into them. That’s pretty much it.
58: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 22:13:09.39 0
Once again we’re getting lectured by Maro-chan. You’ve got to be grateful to Maro for always showing us the proper path — in that special, intense way which is the only way she knows.
107: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 22:41:47.48 0
I remember this one time when I praised Maro-chan for her singing and she had this look full of disdain on her face, like she was saying, “Why the hell are you giving me your opinion on something you know nothing about? You’re a complete amateur.“
Maro-chan is God.
85: 名無し募集中。。。 2019/01/21(月) 22:29:10.59 0
But if I could only say positive things about Maro, I wouldn’t have anything to say to her!
Source: http://c-ute.doorblog.jp/archives/52943855.html, https://miyearnzzlabo.com/archives/54124
It’s really weird, isn’t it. A handshake event should be about fans being grateful to shake their idol’s hand. Instead they’re trying to lecture them.
Also, saying stuff like “you’re skin has gotten worse” or the bad-hair-day comment is not lecturing. It’s downright rude and tactless.
Well, that’s what happens when you force girls to interact directly with the public. You can’t possible control what people will say to them and not every interaction will be a pleasant one.
I’m sure the girls are smart enough to realize that a lot of their fans are socially and mentally maladjusted. There’s no reason to take what a fan says seriously. It’s like dealing with someone with dementia.
“Oh you say you’re a dentist and you need to go to your office to work? That’s nice.”
“Oh you say my singing was bad yesterday? Oh that’s nice thank you for your criticism.”
When you deal with people in pretty much any line of work a bunch of them are going to be mentally damaged and it’s best not to take it personally although I understand a young girl might not understand this. Hopefully their managers and producers just tell them “That fan said something bad about you? Well, he’s retarded and doesn’t know shit so just ignore it.”
Yep, wotas are all deranged. That’s why I’m here!
An important thing said was that this is about kids going through puberty. Doesn’t matter their sex, words have a far greater effect. Especially when they’re still new to the industry and hasn’t had time to develop thick skin.
And depending on the idol and that day’s events, they might keep hearing the same criticisms. It’s always easy to brush off rudeness here and there, but not when it’s fairly frequent. Then it begins to turn into negative reinforcement that ends up sticking in their mind which can cause early retirement or affect their mental health.
However, given how blunt the person expressed “they will hate you!”, that means most idols do indeed brush it off even if it annoys or hurts them. And if they remember your face, it’s so they can shut your voice out next time they show up because you proved unworthy to be listened to loll
Idols need to have thick skins and great people skills.
I’m sick of being lectured by Maro.
“You often see this stuff in YouTube comments — these people who seem to have this weird sense of duty where they think, “if I don’t cricitize these idols, the group and the office as a whole isn’t going to get any better!”
Exactly why I stopped reading comments on YouTube.
“You wouldn’t believe how deeply it can hurt a girl who’s going through puberty when you tell them stuff like that. It’s as if you were breaking a huge glass into a million pieces.”
As the old adage says: If you don’t have anything nice to say, say nothing at all.
I remember Meimi was scolded by a fan during summer 2015, something about being too harsh to the 3rd gen members. She had to take a break from an event because she was bawling. It’s crazy how entitled some wota feel.
Keep on saying positive things on them, and always cheer on them when they down. This is the real thing to support our idol.
Yep comment 107 is my mood… MARO~! I love you… Where would we lowly wota be without you? Hurry up and write more songs for me to praise you for, and you completely ignore me for it!
That’s right. You don’t lecture idols.
The proper way is smugly telling their fans how shit their oshi is.
How do people even muster up the ball to criticize the girls while shaking their hand? If I were within 3 feet of Harunan, I’d be too busy trying to hold my fangirling in to lecture her about her Sayumi-style singing.