1: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/25(火) 23:35:13.12 0.net
I just feel disgusted when I think about the fact that these shoddy music videos from the past few years will remain in history forever as the official videos for these songs.
15: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/25(火) 23:41:59.80 0.net
Well, what sorts of music videos would you like to see instead?
10: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/25(火) 23:39:16.16 0.net
I just feel miserable if I watch the music videos. I only watch the live videos.
22: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/25(火) 23:45:21.08 0.net
Even just shooting on-location somewhere already makes the videos feel a lot less cheap. It really is too bad that they mostly just film at bland-looking studios.
27: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/25(火) 23:48:56.32 0.net
Them not spending money on the music videos is nothing new. But ever since they pointlessly decided to make every single a triple A-side, that means each music video has even less of a budget, guaranteeing us even blander music videos. I just feel like they should focus their money on making one music video per single, and making it well.
8: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/25(火) 23:38:56.00 0.net
14: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/25(火) 23:41:59.39 0.net
Looks like a kindergarten play. (laughs)
41: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:01:23.76 0.net
Alright! Let’s think up ideas that the office could employ to save the maximum amount of money when making music videos! Write your ideas below!
48: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:05:09.06 0.net
Well, they could have the members just film themselves dancing at the rehearsal studio, only leaving the editing to the staff.
49: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:05:38.78 0.net
I liked the “Kare to Issho ni Omise ga Shitai” video though. It was cute.
100: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:42:07.71 0.net
Yeah, that was a good one.
58: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:09:31.20 0.net
Well, I guess it can’t be helped that they don’t have the money, but I just wish they’d put a little more thought behind the videos. If you’re going to make videos of all songs on a triple A-side single, then at least make one of them a little bit different.
60: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:10:36.09 0.net
1. You can’t afford to use too much money on it.
2. You can’t afford to put too much work in it.
3. You can’t even afford to put too much time in it.
A glittering background with lots of camera zoom-ins and outs.
63: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:12:03.28 0.net
Is it really just a problem of too little time and money though? Seeing how much they do those face close-ups and that sparkling background, I’m pretty sure they’re actually kind of fond of those effects themselves.
62: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:11:39.36 0.net
I feel like °C is one of the better groups at using their small budgets well.
65: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:16:17.87 0.net
The Shibue version of that one PV — that kind of thing really gets the fans excited. I think it’s a good idea to do stuff like that every once in a while, like getting fresh creators making something for them. I guess it’s the money and the copyright issues at the heart of the matter.
71: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:24:21.98 0.net
They made a huge deal out of that search for a director for Seishun Kozou’s PV, and look what happened with that whole thing. No wonder they can’t find capable talent willing to work with them. Even now you can’t watch that PV anywhere but YouTube. If that guy sued them for fraud, he’d win the case.
72: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:26:24.20 0.net
True, they didn’t take Shibue’s version of the PV seriously enough at all. What a waste. They should’ve promoted that thing so much more. Seriously, why didn’t they?
76: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:28:09.34 0.net
It doesn’t matter who you’re ordering from if all you’re asking from them is shit. Doesn’t matter who it is — shit is what you will be served.
77: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:28:10.33 0.net
It’s hard to believe this music video came out of that same company. The problem with Musume these days is that their songs are all so serious. They used to have songs and dances that were a lot more humorous, and that meant they could be playful with the music videos, too.
339: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 18:28:51.05 0.net
The members themselves created the picture story show. Country Girls is one of the better groups when it comes to music videos.
82: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:31:46.19 0.net
If they really try, they can make proper music even with Eric’s budget.
86: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:34:57.61 0.net
Billboards and page-wide advertisements. That’s all this company has money for now.
92: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:37:44.60 0.net
Instead of spending money on billboards only people in Tokyo will see, I wish they’d spend money on music videos that people from all over the world are going to watch.
93: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:37:58.01 0.net
I get that they’re trying to fit all the members into the finished product with Musume’s music videos, but still, there’s simply way too many cuts.
107: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:45:56.15 0.net
They have so many members though, I can imagine it being difficult coming up with ideas for their music videos.
121: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 00:52:56.38 0.net
I haven’t been seeing Musume on the TV lately but I guess they’re still active, so I had a look at some of their music videos on YouTube. My opinion? I didn’t sense a single ounce of them trying to entertain or arouse anyone’s interest. What their office seems to have is a simple assembly line system of making bland, uninspired music videos. Nothing more.
139: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 01:11:33.35 0.net
Doesn’t Musume these days have any videos like this where the members are all acting?
140: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 01:12:22.61 0.net
Rather than shooting videos on a shabby indoor set, they ought to just randomly film some stuff outdoors and it’d instantly look a lot more interesting.
161: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 01:28:25.64 0.net
I feel like they put a lot of effort into making Tokaikko Junjou. Nowadays they’re all shot in a studio and it’s all the same old dancing and close-ups.
169: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 01:31:43.14 0.net
The music video for Pyoko Pyoko Ultra is by no means perfect, but I do think it was fun what they were trying to do with it.
170: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 01:32:00.24 0.net
Just the members, the song, and some good sense.
You don’t need any money.
178: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 01:46:21.10 0.net
The most expensive-looking Musume video to date: We’re ALIVE.
188: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 01:51:37.44 0.net
Watching it now, even this one doesn’t seem that special. They’d already started doing the whole “blowing wind into curtains” thing.
195: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 01:59:02.43 0.net
The reality of the situation is that it no longer matters whether or not they spend money on the music videos. They’ll still sell exactly the same amount of copies.
215: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 02:09:54.86 0.net
But wota will always keep graduating. You have to keep getting new fans into the group at least the same pace, and music videos are the easiest, most efficient way for people to learn about new groups.
207: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 02:04:49.78 0.net
I liked their style with Do it! Now and AS FOR ONE DAY. I watched those over and over again.
212: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 02:07:29.55 O.net
I feel like the music videos have gotten better as of late though. JJ’s CHOICE & CHANCE and Kobushi’s Dosukoi are both good. They’ve started using more first-time directors, too.
216: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 02:10:16.06 0.net
I don’t need them to go overseas to shoot the videos or anything like that, but even just walking outside doing stuff would make a huge difference. Go for any kind of on-location shoot rather than the dull studios.
224: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 02:14:59.44 0.net
I can’t say this is true without exception, but think about which might be cheaper: the personnel costs when shooting outside, or the personnel costs when shooting in a studio. I think you can figure out the answer if you think about how rarely they do shoot outside.
244: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 03:00:13.01 0.net
They can do good music videos when they want to — like with indies-era S/mileage.
136: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/26(水) 01:09:23.30 0.net
If only they’d stop making the videos an endless cycle of close-ups followed by dance shots. That’s all I’m asking.
With Kobushi’s recent music videos, it really shows that it doesn’t take a lot of budget to make something entertaining. Chototsu Moushin is probably the least entertaining of the three off of their most recent single, but at least the scenes with the blocks and some other interesting shots make it stand out from the standard, bland one-angle dance shot/close up treatment.
Even Country Girls’ recent MVs are improved by better set/props and not just an empty building with some fabric pinned up in the background.
…Also, I think Angerme’s Mahotsukai Sally MV is charmingly cheap since it’s done on purpose.
That just some good examples about being creative with low-budget. Other than those you mentioned, they’re look very… ewww. People complaining here, because majority, most, are shit. If we can be honest and don’t try to pull some denials, there will be more complains than praises.
I really like what they are doing for Kobushi. Country Girls’s Ran Ra Run MV is fun too. The boxing in that Juice=Juice one also gave that one a bit of punch.
I like the cheapness in a way
In a way it transkates to simpler, purer times for me, when they all wore those super cheap blue outfits on aoiro 11 on utaben etc
Besides, the girls are always carefully presenting and most eyes are on them so i dont think most care about the backround.
Noticing the backround i think means 1-2 things.
Either a female wota or a gay male wota
I just assume that they did this on purpose. It’s not that they have limited budget or less ideas. Probably thet want viewers to watch closely about the members & their performances (singing & dancing)
No, it’s cheap, they’re cutting cost and it’s not about them wanting us to focus on members. That sounds just some, total fabricated excuse to ease our hearts.
Everything the 2ch said tho is so True. They can still have close-ups while those members are acting, instead of plain lipsyncing.
I really like Country Girls’ and Kobushi’s MVs… only the Momusu videos are kinda boring and that’s sad… I wish they’d do something like kare to omise ga shitai again because this was really cute and less serious… they even stopped doing the dance shots even though they are really fond of their dance routines…
This has been an issue since I started following HP. I really think it’s the lack of creativity that hurts more than low budgets though.
You don’t need a big budget to make good music videos. Just a good director and imagination. That’s the REAL problem with UpFront and H!P PV’s..no new ideas..just close up dance shot and a studio…boring. Although the new Country Girls PV’s are a step in the right direction…still look at some Indie Idol groups that have amazing videos on no budget at all! IMAGINATION CREATIVITY this is what is lacking!!!
Make Momochi the new art director for H!P PVs.
Fuku-chan’s boobs take up quite a lot of slack for the low quality MVs.
I love how the Japanese fandom is just two teams about it, just like the oversea fandom.
Didn’t Platinium era videos kinda proved that throwing money at a problem didn’t work? Resonant Blue became a big hit even though it looked cheap.
Mikan looked like it had a budget(though it was mostly a blue screen and CG outsourced from somewhere), but it flopped. Though the song became a fan favorite.