Tsunku♂ has given us over 1300 songs.
What do you think is the one message he’s
tried to convey to us through his music?
1: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/06(火)23:45:02 ID:???
The world belongs to us all.
2: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/06(火)23:46:34 ID:???
The future of Japan looks bright.
31: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/07(水)13:30:30 ID:???
That people who like fishing can’t be bad people.
4: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/06(火)23:47:22 ID:???
That we all need to become Yattaruchan.
30: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/07(水)13:19:22 ID:???
26: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/07(水)08:55:53 ID:???
That you have to celebrate your youth. But then on the other hand he also says that your whole life is your youth, so ultimately what he’s saying is that you have to celebrate your life.
9: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/06(火)23:48:54 ID:???
3: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/06(火)23:47:19 ID:???
That 100 years is not enough for one lifetime.
5: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/06(火)23:47:24 ID:???
We need to have fun in life.
6: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/06(火)23:47:36 ID:???
Planet Earth is crying.
7: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/06(火)23:48:39 ID:???
The sense of security found in the feeling of irritation.
18: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/06(火)23:53:38 ID:???
Society is rose-colored.
19: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/06(火)23:56:32 ID:???
Resources are finite.
23: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/07(水)01:07:19 ID:???
That Japan is a country with delicious rice.
24: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/07(水)02:07:49 ID:???
28: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/07(水)09:20:07 ID:???
That while there will be times you’ll be troubling yourself with matters of love, you have to do your best to always keep living positively regardless. Also, that we must take good care of our planet.
36: つんく回復祈願中。。。◆n/7caLIPGc 2014/05/07(水)22:56:39 ID:???
The themes in Tsunku’s lyrics can be divided in roughly two categories. There’s the lyrics about “being thankful for ordinary happiness,” and the “stories of girls unable to achieve said ordinary happiness.”
Every once in a while there’ll be much bigger themes in his lyrics, like stuff about the planet or peace or nature, but I think what Tsunku is trying to say that they’re all just things that are part of that ordinary happiness.
49: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)14:21:09 ID:???
I think what Tsunku wants to say is that nothing good will come out of pessimism. He’s saying “look, I’ll become a clown for you, so you guys just go ahead and laugh.” Because it’s always better to be laughing, isn’t it?
51: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)14:25:49 ID:???
Tsunku is nothing if not consistent with what he writes. I remember him once talking about how he’s unable to write words that don’t come from the heart. On the opposite spectrum, there are some professional lyricists out there who can mass produce lyrics that don’t come from within. But Tsunku is not like that.
53: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)14:28:01 ID:???
I feel like his lyrics have changed since he got married and had kids.
55: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)14:29:08 ID:???
But of course. Something like that will have a huge influence on you, mentally.
89: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)19:08:09 ID:???
Another important quality of H!P lyrics is that certain feeling of love towards your family, and that was especially concentrated in the song Maji de Suka ska. That’s the number one pop song I would want young children everywhere to hear.
92: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)21:39:27 ID:???
Even in the early songs like Happy Summer Wedding, he was already writing lyrics like “Ah, father, mother. Ah, I’m so thankful. ♪” And there are songs like Papa ni Niteiru Kare, too. Tsunku has given a very warm representation of the concept of family for a long time now.
54: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)14:29:03 ID:???
Tsunku is a fool, but he’s a good person. And that’s something that just oozes from his lyrics.
57: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)14:31:43 ID:???
He has plenty of lyrics about feeling sad or bitter about an unrequited love, but none about feeling absolute despair or hopelessness towards life — “no one understands” or “I want to die.” Nothing on that level. He’s always been very forward-looking when it comes to life.
65: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)14:44:15 ID:???
I’m pretty sure Kimi Sae Ireba Nani mo Iranai is Tsunku’s love song to his own children.
64: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)14:44:00 ID:???
>>1 here, but I just wanted to clarify that when I said “The world belongs to us all” in my opening post, I didn’t mean it as a joke but was actually pretty serious about it. (laughs) Like, “since the planet belongs to all of us, let’s use its resources equally. It’s thanks to this planet that we’re all here.” That kind of thing.
67: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)14:44:49 ID:???
Where were you, >>1? You can’t let a thread this good go to waste.
68: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)14:48:52 ID:???
Sorry for neglecting it. m(. . )m
Whenever I’m feeling down and I listen to Tsunku’s silly songs, it just immediately brings my spirits back up. I just start to feel so foolish for even being worried about something in the first place. (laughs) But that’s actually something pretty amazing, isn’t it?
70: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)14:52:43 ID:???
Very true. I don’t know why, but his music is so uplifting.
77: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)15:02:26 ID:???
Tsunku’s lyrics also feature lots of mentions about all kinds of food. It’s pretty clear that’s because he wants to point out the importance of eating.
79: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)15:06:41 ID:???
Well, to humans, living and eating are completely inseparable after all.
83: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)15:35:24 ID:???
“Ame no Furanai Hoshi de wa Aisenai darou?”
In most lyrics, rain is usually a metaphor for something negative. But it’s because there’s sadness that there can be kindness — it simply wouldn’t be any good without rain.
84: 名無しさん＠おーぷん 2014/05/08(木)15:38:45 ID:???
Reading through this thread, I didn’t see a single reply I disagreed with.
3. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年05月09日 19:47 ID:t.cQrsxX0
From the big themes love, life and politics, all the way to the world of belly buttons. Tsunku really is a genius.
The three representative Platinum Era songs:
“Resonant Blue,” “Kimagure Princess,” and…?
1: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:14:01.48 0.net
Ookii Hitomi, am I right?
2: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:15:29.14 0.net
Shouganai Yume Oibito.
Makes me cry.
3: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:15:37.48 0.net
Has to be SONGS.
4: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:16:14.77 0.net
5: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:16:16.70 0.net
OP seems like someone I would get along with. But it’s hard to ignore Shouganai Yume Oibito, either.
14: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:22:29.98 0.net
Mikan is great.
7: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:17:36.56 O.net
Guru Jump, Donkan, Bibiccha.
12: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:20:42.29 0.net
15: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:22:40.13 0.net
Itoshiku Kurushii Kono Yoru ni.
16: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:23:42.41 0.net
Onna ga Medatte Naze Ikenai.
17: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:23:48.48 0.net
Ame Fura Darou
20: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:25:03.45 0.net
The ones I still listen to a lot to this day are Nanchatte Renai and Mikan.
21: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:26:54.26 0.net
No mention of Pepper Keibu so far.
22: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:27:39.62 0.net
Loving you forever.
23: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:28:53.79 0.net
27: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:32:07.23 0.net
Resonant Blue, Nanchatte Renai, Mikan.
29: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:34:30.13 0.net
I like Moonlight Night.
30: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:34:58.42 0.net
Bravo! was originally a Platinum Era song, too, right?
34: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:42:00.90 0.net
Manpower and HOW DO YOU LIKE THIS JAPAN? seem like Platinum Era songs at this point.
35: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:42:28.97 0.net
Naichau Kamo. I love the melody of the chorus.
36: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:43:08.20 O.net
Naichau Kamo, Shouganai Yume Oibito, Mikan.
37: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:43:55.84 0.net
Resonant Blue, Naichau Kamo, SONGS.
38: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:44:53.66 0.net
The unison singing of Pepper Keibu was fantastic.
39: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:46:12.80 0.net
Resonant Blue, Ookii Hitomi, Moonlight.
40: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:47:27.32 0.net
Kimagure, Naichau, Lullaby.
41: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:49:44.14 0.net
SONGS, 321, Namidacchi.
44: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:52:32.46 0.net
Itoshiku Kurushii is priceless for 6th gen wota. The fact that it’s the last song with Kamei singing main vocals, or how Sayu and Reina sang it at their dinner show on Kamei’s birthday… just thinking about it makes me cry.
42: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:51:58.96 0.net
Egao YES Nude.
45: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:54:09.64 0.net
That isn’t Platinum Era.
48: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:57:21.73 0.net
Platinum Era is everything after Platinum 9 DISCO, right?
49: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:58:44.45 0.net
Speaking in terms of tours, it was the era from Bonkyu to Rival Survival.
50: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 20:59:13.12 0.net
Did Platinum Era end with the graduation of Kamei-Jun-Lin, or with the graduation of Takahashi Ai?
54: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:00:39.63 0.net
It ended with the joining of 9th gen.
60: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:07:53.16 0.net
Chikyuu Honki was no longer Platinum Era, but it sounded just like it. I felt like the time until Takahashi Ai’s graduation was the “post-Platinum Era.”
57: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:03:16.63 0.net
The 9th, 10th and 11th albums are masterpieces.
61: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:08:14.50 0.net
Many female fans love the Platinum Era songs. I liked Nanchatte Renai the most, outfits and all.
63: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:10:29.40 0.net
I’ve been going to many concerts by many artists for many years now, but the only time I really felt deeply moved just from seeing a concert was when seeing Platinum Era Musume.
67: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:12:50.58 0.net
Morning Musume had come to a point where, at the beginning of Platinum Era, they couldn’t even draw enough people to fill concert halls without the help of Ishikawa Rika.
Three years after that, Platinum Era Musume descended to a sold-out Yokohama Arena.
That’s what people are talking about when discussing the legend of Platinum Era.
74: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:24:04.49 0.net
I started watching the videos, but tears started coming out so I stopped.
107: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:48:30.71 0.net
Rival Survival’s Seishun Collection makes me cry so much.
80: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:30:25.80 0.net
Has to be Lullaby Game.
82: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:32:34.76 0.net
Nanchatte Renai, Ookii Hitomi, Namidacchi.
86: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:35:22.68 0.net
In any case, Terada was just on fire during this period. I remember hoping Musume wouldn’t get popular again, because Terada is the Tezuka Osamu type — the more he’s bashed, the more fired-up he becomes and the more he demonstrates what he’s truly capable of.
88: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:35:56.78 0.net
I love Tomo, but I’m sad it doesn’t seem to get as much love as it deserves.
92: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:38:28.34 0.net
Tomo, Ame Fura, Namidacchi. Those are the three hidden gems that were so good because it was that line-up singing them.
95: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:41:26.64 0.net
Sono Bamen de Bibiccha Ikenai Jan.
96: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:42:37.06 0.net
One song that tends to be forgotten because of Ito Kuru is Kataomoi no Owari ni. Also, I guess this one doesn’t get mentioned much because it doesn’t “feel” like a Platinum Era song, but Genki Pikappika!
98: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:43:24.83 0.net
Even if it was for just one last time, I wish I could see a concert featuring this lineup.
104: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:47:20.41 0.net
Watching Platinum Era live footage, one thing that really strikes me is not only the high-quality vocal performances, but also the great camerawork.
105: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:47:30.35 0.net
Is no one going to mention Osaka Umai nen?
109: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:49:58.91 0.net
I guess it’s only to be expected, but there’s no mention of Appare Kaitenzushi so far in the thread.
121: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:57:40.29 0.net
That’s because it’s a Muten Musume song.
130: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:02:49.08 0.net
Has to be Onna ni Sachi Are.
112: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:51:50.50 0.net
For me? Aki Urara.
118: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:55:52.55 0.net
I still remember that first ever performance of Ame Fura that first day of Hello Con at Osaka. I could only stare at the stage, my mouth agape.
120: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:57:01.99 0.net
I love Genki+, but this one doesn’t count as Platinum Era either.
122: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 21:59:21.96 0.net
HOW DO YOU LIKE THIS JAPAN as it was performed by Platinum Era members was awesome.
124: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:00:02.71 0.net
I could pick three songs from each Platinum Era album.
125: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:01:49.78 0.net
It used to be that the first song of every Musume album was amazing. HOW DO YOU LIKE THIS JAPAN, Genki+, SONGS, Moonlight…
128: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:02:30.98 0.net
Would it be against the rules if I said “Johnny e no Dengon” from the COVER YOU album? (laughs)
242: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/01(火) 00:06:16.95 0.net
You’re a good man.
134: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:04:25.46 0.net
Has to be the three songs about sad women.
140: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:05:25.25 0.net
“Three songs about sad women…” There has to be a better name for those songs than this. (laughs)
139: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:05:18.00 0.net
Nanchatte, Aki Urara, Subete wa Ai no Chikara. They really went all in for the commemorative 40th single.
152: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:10:06.76 0.net
I like Bonkyu GIRL.
133: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:04:20.58 0.net
All the Platinum Era B-sides are stupidly amazing. (laughs)
161: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:14:46.97 0.net
I really don’t understand the point of them doing triple A-side singles these days. I wish they’d stop. It’s because there are B-sides that you can have experiments like Yowamushi.
162: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:16:48.42 0.net
Yeah. It gets so boring when all the songs are A-sides. In the past you would listen to the coupling songs, wondering just how they’d perform them in a live setting… and it was so exciting when they finally did. We don’t have that anymore.
250: 名無し募集中 2015/09/01(火) 01:19:40.54 0.net
164: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:18:56.69 0.net
It’s boring, too, how these days you can pretty much predict all the songs they’re going to do on tour.
177: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:28:51.91 0.net
Ookii Hitomi at Yokohama Arena was the best. I don’t think I’ll ever get so fired up for anything again.
181: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:31:24.95 0.net
It was so important to have supporting members like Gaki-san in the group. ’15, too, needs a post-Gaki.
197: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:40:32.86 0.net
With Gaki-san, it wasn’t just about that great voice of hers, but also her age and the number of years she’d been in the group and the credibility that brought. I’m hoping that in about three years from now we’re going to start seeing some of the current members becoming more like her.
186: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:33:02.76 0.net
Gaki-san wasn’t a supporting member. She was a hidden main member.
187: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:33:06.75 0.net
I know Haru Beautiful Everyday isn’t officially a Platinum Era song either, but I want to put that out there regardless.
191: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:35:48.97 0.net
Another song that doesn’t feel like a Platinum Era song is Sungoi My Birthday. I quite like that one, too. Fantasy Jyuuichi didn’t have any bad songs.
192: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:36:02.75 0.net
I don’t think many people actually saw it, but that first Hawaii live show after Jun-Lin had joined was really good, setlist-wise and otherwise, too.
194: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:37:41.09 0.net
Even just the fact that Takahashi, Niigaki, Kamei, Michishige and Tanaka were all part of the group at the same time is amazing.
195: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:38:59.15 0.net
I feel like 1 Kara 10 Made is a perfect song for the new Musume, but they haven’t performed it at all since Fantasy. I guess it kinda goes against the whole EDM thing.
202: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:43:55.40 0.net
Performing 1 Kara 10 Made Aishite Hoshii would make the 11th and 12th gen members all sulky. (laughs)
198: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:41:39.11 0.net
Another hidden gem, that song. It seems like it’d fit the current members, but I would’ve liked to see it performed by the original members as well.
204: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:47:15.09 0.net
I like how 1 Kara 10 has so many “yays” and “fuffuus.” To me those are like the foundation of a proper H!P song.
207: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:48:35.84 0.net
I never really rewatch any of the Blu-Rays I buy, but when it comes to Rival Survival, I don’t actually even know how many times I’ve watched it…
211: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:51:03.03 0.net
Rival Survival is the kind of concert that I need to get seriously mentally prepared for in advance, so I only watch it about once a year.
218: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:53:06.54 0.net
Rival Survival’s Koi ING and Hare Suki are both performances that live on only in the memories of people who attended those concerts. And they were both such amazing performances, too…
221: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 22:54:21.22 0.net
JCB is so narrow and flat, I hate it. But I went there so I could see Platinum Era live one more time. And I’m glad I did.
229: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 23:04:54.92 0.net
No mention of “It’s you” so far in the thread.
231: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 23:08:41.38 0.net
Resonant Blue, Nanchatte, Ame Fura. That’s the only right combination.
232: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 23:13:40.14 0.net
You people are failing to mention the SEXY 8 BEAT songs.
Haru Beautiful Everyday, Genki+, Shanimuni, BE Positive… they’re all supremely amazing.
254: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/01(火) 02:56:27.92 0.net
That was just short of being Platinum Era, but considering how much they performed those songs live, I feel like it’s almost okay to call them Platinum Era songs anyway.
235: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 23:18:26.73 0.net
8 BEAT was in a way the prologue to Platinum Era.
234: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 23:16:46.57 0.net
Guru Jump, Mikan, MERRY Pin.
237: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/08/31(月) 23:37:28.06 0.net
The time between the 7th to 11th albums was my youth. I still remember those nights of drinking and praising the group with my buddies after all the concerts we went to. These days I feel like crying just listening to these songs on the train or wherever. I’ve gotten old.
246: 名無し募集中 2015/09/01(火) 00:47:51.19 0.net
Mikan, Ame Fura, Genki Pikappika… there are too many awesome songs to mention.
253: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/01(火) 02:33:25.76 0.net
That backbeat of Naichau Kamo is so pleasant, as is that godly phrase of “you’re alone again, Mariko.“
255: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/01(火) 03:08:29.53 0.net
I’m watching the Pikapika tour DVD while reading this thread.
261: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/01(火) 06:00:55.62 0.net
I still remember that day five years ago when I happened to come across the Pikapika encore → HOW DO YOU LIKE JAPAN? video and getting instantly hooked on the Platinum Era.
267: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/01(火) 06:59:57.55 0.net
I laughed when I saw Koharu donning that huge hat in Sono Bamen de Bibiccha Ikenai Jan! ＼(^o^)／
269: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/01(火) 07:07:01.85 0.net
306: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/01(火) 14:41:47.02 0.net
Right, this is the one! I thought Koharu might break her neck. (laughs)
285: 【だん吉】 2015/09/01(火) 08:10:25.33 0.net
My favorite era was that time after Golden Era up until just before Platinum Era (the time around Ambitious, SEXY BOY and Aruiteru). That said, I love Platinum Era, too.
12. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2015年09月02日 09:17 ID:v.nWTpfz0
I love both the Platinum Era and the EDM Era in different ways. It’s pretty amazing that a group exists with this kind of variety and breadth in their back catalog of amazing songs. It’s also great that everyone during the Platinum Era aside from Jun-Lin got their own solo songs. I would’ve wanted to give those two their own, too.
16. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2015年09月02日 16:48 ID:GGTA5mLu0
There are too many good songs. It’s impossible to pick just three.
9. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2015年09月01日 22:13 ID:.nLj.Nck0
If Ai-chan suddenly said “we’ll show you the ultimate form of Morning Musume” and got those eight girls together one more time, they’d fill any and every venue they went to.
The S/mileage song by the name of
1: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/25(金) 18:21:47.56 0.net
…is good stuff.
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It’s full of memories for me.
4: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/25(金) 18:25:04.03 0.net
8: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/25(金) 18:39:18.99 0.net
It feels movie-like in a way.
6: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/25(金) 18:38:36.03 0.net
How would you categorize a song like this, genre-wise?
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17: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/25(金) 18:46:25.44 0.net
The choreography in the chorus is so Tsunku.
21: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/25(金) 18:51:00.76 0.net
Early S/mile had so many good songs. Chiririn is great as well.
44: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/25(金) 19:31:48.76 0.net
It’s the song that makes Ayacho smile.
46: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/25(金) 19:43:25.62 0.net
You have to post this, too.
34: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/25(金) 19:13:08.46 0.net
I like Tsunku’s naming sense in that he didn’t directly use the title in the actual lyrics of the song.
51: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/09/25(金) 20:14:58.07 0.net
I love the lyrics in how they make your heart twinge a little but aren’t flirty at all.
A certain group called Tanpopo
1: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 22:31:55.98 0.net
They have a lot of songs that are kinda pretty damn good.
10: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 22:44:25.31 0.net
Those first era songs where they harmonized were good stuff.
7: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 22:39:51.58 0.net
#’s Umbrella is a good song, too.
12: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 22:47:37.08 0.net
I loved Sentimental Minamimuki.
14: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 22:48:28.88 0.net
JJ are singing Last Kiss on their tour.
21: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 22:57:14.91 0.net
I’ve been listening to Last Kiss from First Squeeze constantly. I just love these kind of 90’s kayou kyoku type songs. Write more songs like this again, Tsunku!
20: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 22:56:12.61 0.net
I wish they’d take three members of the current Musume and make a new version of Tanpopo.
27: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 23:03:39.66 0.net
They don’t really have anyone with the voice of Ishiguro though, especially considering how they’re all still in their teens.
26: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 23:02:35.32 0.net
If we were to pick them based just on their voices, I’d probably go for Fukumura, Oda and Haga.
24: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 22:59:36.95 0.net
They were so sparkly!
29: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 23:04:48.88 0.net
Kago-chan was the best.
11: やくみつゆ 2015/10/06(火) 22:44:44.78 0.net
It feels like all groups Kago-chan was a part of had a bunch of great songs. I guess the type of the singer’s voice really does matter.
50: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 23:34:24.65 0.net
“I got an email from you. It said “I’m behind you.””
This is a scary song to listen to at night. (laughs)
55: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 23:57:38.73 0.net
I wish they’d have another group like 2nd gen Tanpopo in that they’d mainly do just cute songs like that.
36: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 23:13:41.04 0.net
Tanpopo is a song I really wish they’d sing regularly even now.
41: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 23:17:38.45 0.net
When the intro of Tanpopo starts, it just feels like it completely clears the atmosphere around me. When I’m listening to it, the muscles in my spine straighten. That’s the kind of special song it is for me.
49: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 23:33:47.06 O.net
The song Tanpopo is great of course, but the PV, too, is excellent. I guess they really had good taste back in those days.
47: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 23:30:23.36 0.net
I know what you mean. Seinaru Kane ga Hibiku Yoru is awesome.
48: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 23:31:23.36 0.net
Now what with Yaguchi having come back as well, I think it’s about time they covered this song again.
45: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 23:26:11.13 0.net
Tanpopo’s best song has to be A Rainy Day.
53: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 23:46:37.87 0.net
Those B-sides on the first album were nice and bossa nova-ish.
28: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 23:04:31.80 0.net
I love Koi no Yajirobee, but it’s kind of a minor song so it doesn’t get the recognition it deserves.
52: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 23:45:59.21 0.net
I don’t know why, but even now I start to cry whenever I listen to Koi no Yajirobee.
58: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/07(水) 00:18:35.29 0.net
Koi no Yajirobee has been covered by Kumai, Maro, Momochi and Fukumura.
63: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/07(水) 00:31:49.96 0.net
Thanks man. You’ve shown me something good.
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64: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/07(水) 00:32:44.20 0.net
OH-SO-RO was a fun show.
71: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/07(水) 00:38:03.93 0.net
Oujisama to Yuki no Yoru was a no. 1.
75: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/07(水) 00:50:57.98 0.net
That really is such a good song.
67: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/07(水) 00:35:29.38 0.net
I&YOU&I&YOU&I is an amazing song despite it only having a verse and a chorus.
5: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/06(火) 22:35:33.13 0.net
I&YOU&I&YOU&I — the grand culmination of 2nd gen Tanpopo.
68: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/07(水) 00:36:23.47 0.net
Speaking in terms of quality, it feels like Golden Era Musume, Tanpopo, v-u-den and Matsuura already did pretty much everything that other idols in recent years are trying to do.
70: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/07(水) 00:37:25.88 0.net
79: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/10/07(水) 01:20:53.19 0.net
No idol group these days is doing the kind of Showa era kayou kyoku thing even though there’s definitely a demand for it. Mano-chan was the last idol who had that Showa feel to her music.
6. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2015年10月07日 16:59 ID:5A0a.Zb8O
Tanpopo is a dignified, beautiful song.
And I just love the purity of Last Kiss.
7. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2015年10月07日 19:31 ID:FbjiD4KP0
Last Kiss is a special one for me.
8. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2015年10月07日 21:01 ID:nG4j50XL0
I became a fan during the group’s 2nd gen, but I love the songs from the 1st gen as well. I listened to their best-of so much. I&YOU is amazing. Musume has 13 members now — even if it’s only in a live setting, I really wish they’d bring back a new Tanpopo, Pucchimoni and Minimoni.
9. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2015年10月07日 22:51 ID:wSYP07Ly0
Tanpopo and Seinaru Kane ga Hibiku Yoru are truly amazing songs. It’d be such a waste if they were just forgotten about, so I wish they’d perform them with the current members, too, to allow the songs to live on. In my mind the new Tanpopo would consist of Fukumura Mizuki, Oda Sakura and Suzuki Kanon.
1. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2015年10月07日 07:42 ID:H1sRy3B80
The first album is a masterpiece.
Do you guys realize that the Boy
has entertained you for a full 15 years now?
1: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/23(土) 18:24:47.94 0
I don’t think you guys could even go on living without the Boy at this point. (laughs)
6: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/23(土) 18:27:38.40 0
People who have been fans of him ever since Sharan Q have been entertained by him for even longer.
10: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/23(土) 18:29:12.19 0
I didn’t think H!P would last even ten years.
4: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/23(土) 18:27:22.85 0
I pretty much feel like I’m married to him at this point.
11: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/23(土) 18:29:40.41 O
Terada, thank you, Terada.
22: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/23(土) 18:37:33.58 0
Is Terada embracing me, or am I embracing Terada?
26: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/23(土) 18:39:33.33 0
My body has become unable to go on living without Terada.
18: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/23(土) 18:34:39.63 0
The girls always leave us. In the end, it’s always just us and the Boy who are left behind.
35: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/23(土) 18:46:43.06 0
I don’t understand why this made me cry.
Person on Twitter: “Tsunku is gross.”
Tsunku: “Well, yeah.”
1: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:01:19.18 0
— つんく♂ (@tsunkuboy) February 21, 2014
2: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:01:44.43 0
He knew all along?!
7: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:03:13.81 0
Terada is so cute for responding to that tweet.
6: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:03:12.41 0
“Well, yeah” is going to be the 2014 buzzword of this board.
9: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:03:43.11 0
No, it’s going to be “Tsunku is gross.“
10: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:03:44.43 P
I believe he may have been just a tiny bit hurt by being told that.
12: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:04:14.16 0
The fact that he responded to the guy is Tsunku’s way of telling us “go on and bash this guy for saying this kind of thing to me!“
16: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:04:54.38 0
Not at all. It’s widely accepted that Tsunku is gross. How could we bash the guy?
14: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:04:32.90 0
He’s gross, but I like him.
15: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:04:46.20 0
It says something about Terada’s integrity how he doesn’t just immediately block the guy.
18: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:05:15.57 0
Tsunku was nominated for coming up with the buzzword of the year two years ago, too.
27: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:06:23.02 0
“Is that so?” is used even to date.
— つんく♂ (@tsunkuboy) June 30, 2011
@nanako_kita: @tsunkuboy It’s Tsunku’s fault for putting Gomaki in the world of show business and making her unhappy.
@tsunkuboy: Is that so? My bad.
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ひじき、高野豆腐な。RT @n_ponao: @tsunkuboy つんくさん、朝ごはんなに食べたんだろ～？
— つんく♂ (@tsunkuboy) February 21, 2014
@n_ponao: @tsunkuboy I wonder what Tsunku-san had for breakfast today~?
@tsunkuboy: Hijiki seaweed and freeze-dried tofu.
88: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:26:26.53 0
ま、おれら芸能界って普通っていうのが一番あかんわな。ある種、きもいとか変態って褒め言葉〜RT @spchir0: @tsunkuboy そんなきもいつんくさんが小学校の頃から好きでした。 by元ハロヲタ
— つんく♂ (@tsunkuboy) February 21, 2014
@spchir0: @tsunkuboy And I’ve always loved that gross Tsunku-san ever since I was a little elementary schooler. (from an ex-H!P wota)
@tsunkuboy: Well, being completely normal would be the number one most unacceptable thing for us people in the world of entertainment. Being called “gross” or “perverted” or something, they’re basically just words of praise to people like me.
92: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:27:06.08 0
やっぱり。RT @ryo_mat_c_ute: @tsunkuboy 1億3000万総ダイエット王国の、年がら年中〜のとこ癖になりますね(O_O)
— つんく♂ (@tsunkuboy) February 21, 2014
@ryo_mat_c_ute: @tsunkuboy The “nengara nenjuu~” bit from 1oku 3zenman Sou Diet Oukoku has been playing in my head constantly as of late. (O_O)
@tsunkuboy: I knew it.
94: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:27:46.78 0
Mm-hmm. It’s all going according to Tsunku’s plan.
111: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:31:04.60 0
I see. Starting from today, I’m going to call Tsunku “gross” whenever I want to praise him for something.
123: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:36:36.15 0
H!P members should follow your lead.
119: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:33:40.44 0
Mitsuo, you’re so cute, Mitsuo.
127: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:37:15.56 0
I wouldn’t have ever become an H!P wota in the first place if Terada didn’t have that considerable amount of grossness in him.
129: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:38:17.69 0
— つんく♂ (@tsunkuboy) February 21, 2014
@cuberry25: @tsunkuboy Since I like the songs and lyrics that you write, does that make me a pervert, too?
@tsunkuboy: Yep. Most definitely.
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— つんく♂ (@tsunkuboy) February 21, 2014
@fonestone: @tsunkuboy @cuberry25 That’s why Berryz wota are often called “perverted gentlemen.” (laughs)
@tsunkuboy: Yeah. Berryz wota, especially, are perverted. I don’t know why, but all the weirdest material I write tends to gravitate towards becoming their songs.
164: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 11:52:53.69 0
I’m glad I’m a Berryz wota.
181: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/02/21(金) 12:04:56.37 0
— つんく♂ (@tsunkuboy) February 21, 2014
@cato_syk: @tsunkuboy But the status of the group with the most perverted members has to belong to Morning Musume!!!
@tsunkuboy: Come on now, don’t let Morning Musume have all the praise!
@KMNRuma: @tsunkuboy You forgot to write the “’14”! (°°;)
@tsunkuboy: Don’t be so fussy!
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— つんく♂ (@tsunkuboy) February 21, 2014
@tsunkuboy: Alright, time for lunch.
20. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年02月21日 19:19 ID:q28.1iGV0
21. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年02月21日 19:45 ID:UicrTTH30
True, he is gross. But when you’re talking about Tsunku, that’s one of his many charms.
14. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年02月21日 14:25 ID:TGRa1tYF0
Every now and then I feel like
there’s a girl living inside Tsunku
1: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 14:04:03.51 0
What with all the lyrics about “I’m not a little girl anymore,” or school circles, or skipping school and whatnot.
9: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 14:13:30.92 0
There definitely is something about him that just screams “13-year-old girl.“
10: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 14:13:46.35 0
Berryz has a lot of lyrics with phrases that one simply could not come up with unless they were a girl. I’m not saying he’s stealing other people’s ideas, but I do think Tsunku has gotten many hints from his past girlfriends or his wife.
11: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 14:22:37.60 0
Mugon ga tsuzuku kedo kono mama no manma ga ii no
Yokaze ni tsutsumarete anata to watashi dake
Ouchi ni kaettara sabotta no kitto bareru na…
Takoyaki to sauce to hatsukoi no nioi de
(“I don’t mind the silence — I want us to remain like we are right now
You and me, enveloped in the night breeze
When I get home, my parents will surely know I’ve skipped school
From the smell of takoyaki sauce and first love on me“)
Shinagawa, Gotanda, Azabu ni Roppongi
Shinjuku, Shin-Okubo — doko de asonderu no?
(“Shinagawa, Gotanda, Azabu or Roppongi,
Shinjuku, Shin-Okubo — where do you hang out?“)
I can’t believe that both of these lyrics were written by the same person.
22: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 14:52:31.80 0
Terada’s female middle schooler songs are the best.
39: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 15:32:01.60 0
The lyrics of 1st and 2nd gen Tanpopo are truly amazing. I can’t believe they were written by some dude who was at the time over 30 years old.
41: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 15:35:27.97 0
I really like the lyrics of the Platinum Era material with mid-twenties female protagonists.
79: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 16:27:14.32 O
I once heard a female lyricist talking about how, when it’s a woman writing lyrics from a female point-of-view, there’s a danger of the lyrics becoming a bit too “graphic.” That’s why there’s a long history of men writing songs from a female point-of-view.
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93: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 17:23:38.17 0
Dateppoi no shitai keredo watashi ga sore wo iu no? Muri muri yo
(“I want to go on something like a date with him, but does that mean I’d have to announce it to him myself? No way, no way!”)
The thing I found amazing about this lyric is that it doesn’t say flat-out “date,” but something like a date.
95: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 17:29:03.88 0
The scary thing about Tsunku is that there’s none of that playboy-type, “look at me, I understand the hearts of women!” kind of thing that could be detected in his work. It’s almost like he’s gotten women to talk to him about the innermost feelings that women actually think about.
135: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 18:11:55.36 0
It’s not that he just understands the feelings of women — his lyrics capture the female way of thinking as a whole.
118: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 17:57:43.50 0
The lyrics to Dance de Bakoon and aMa no Jaku are incredible.
147: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 18:33:15.29 0
The lyrics of Furare Pattern are amazing. Up until the second verse the protagonist talks about just how much she loves the guy, how she’d do anything for him, and yet it continues to be an unrequited love despite all of that. Then she’s even able to self-analyze: “Yume no naka mo tsukushiteru / sonna jibun ni yoishireteru” (“I think about you even in my sleep — but in the end, I’m actually just infatuated with myself when I do“)… and yet she still continues to be rejected by him. He gives the perfect portrayal of a girl in that situation.
176: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 20:48:09.17 0
The other day I was looking on Terada’s Twitter and he was explaining the meaning of “GOODBYE Natsuo.” It got a bunch of retweets. After reading that, I’m pretty much convinced that Tsunku is actually a girl.
177: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 20:52:08.63 0
— つんく♂ (@tsunkuboy) November 16, 2012
@m__cHie: @tsunkuboy Whenever I listen to “Natsuo,” I always find myself asking: why does the protagonist in the lyrics tell the guy that the place she works at is closing sooner than it really is?
@tsunkuboy: Assume that the place she works at is closing at 22 o’clock, but she nevertheless tells the guy that it’s closing at 20 o’clock. If she finds the guy boring, she now has an exit strategy by saying she needs to go home at 20 o’clock. But if she actually likes him, she can say “you know what, screw the closing time, I want to stay here with you for a while longer…” You can imagine how happy the guy would be to hear that.
— つんく♂ (@tsunkuboy) November 16, 2012
@naorin819: Tsunku Boy, you’re much more girlier than I could ever hope to be. ＞＜
@tsunkuboy: But what I really wanted to say with this lyric is, “I’ve told you that the place is closing down early today, but see if you can’t persuade me to keep it open longer!“
23: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/01/25(金) 14:54:18.10 O
What you have to understand is that H!P is nothing but a device that Terada uses to publicly showcase the fair maiden that one day developed inside him.
You know, I used to sympathize with
Tsunku’s lyrics quite a bit, until I realized…
1: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/24(日) 03:15:16.97 O
…I’m a guy.
2: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/24(日) 03:17:15.63 0
Nah, you’re a girl.
7: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/24(日) 03:22:18.24 0
Hey! I, too, often get into the bath hoping I’m going to come out looking more beautiful, or thinking I want to lose 10kg by next weekend.
11: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/24(日) 03:27:19.44 0
I feel lonely since he’s not writing such fair maiden-like lyrics as of late.
15: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/24(日) 03:55:52.82 O
Even foreign fans cry while watching their music videos as they read the subtitles.
16: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/24(日) 05:27:31.10 0
I think it’s pretty great seeing how they do their best in translating those lyrics, but I sometimes have to wonder if they’re successfully able to convey the meaning of some lyrics that even we have trouble understanding?
26: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/24(日) 10:51:04.74 0
“Fudandoori shitereba homerareru type” (“The type of person who gets praised just by acting naturally“) is another one of those nonchalantly amazing phrases. Really makes you think how he must be constantly searching for new lyrical ideas.
21: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/03/24(日) 07:08:46.51 0
This is just between you and me, but every now and then when I’m reading his lyrics, I almost start to blush.
The thread where Tsunku music experts
explain his lyrics to us simpletons
(Note: Some English translations in this thread courtesy of projecthello.com)
1: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 00:54:04.63 0.net
Please. I’m sad that I don’t understand the lyrics of Toki Sora.
4: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 00:55:49.66 0.net
It’s hard to believe that you wouldn’t understand the actual message of the song.
6: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 00:56:30.78 0.net
Which bit in particular do you have trouble understanding? (laughs)
12: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:00:36.39 0.net
Watashi wa mada ne mikansei
Tooi kako kara kimi wo matsu (← huh?)
Kono yo de deaeru to shinji
Kimi wo matsu
(“I’ve still got quite a way to go
I’ve waited for you since the distant past (← huh?)
I believe I’ll meet you in this world
So I wait for you”)
So does that mean he was reborn or something?
13: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:01:09.67 0.net
Don’t try to read it as if it was a story or something. Feel it as if you were trying to appreciate a painting or some good poetry.
25: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:06:21.85 0.net
Toki Sora is Sayu’s song. Sayu loves Musume, and that song is like her message to the future members of Musume that she has yet to even meet. I heard some people saying this kind of thing before and that’s how I now interpret the song, too.
21: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:05:20.84 0.net
The world as it is now is still imperfect, so one day he hopes it would be something more wonderful. When he uses words like “you” and “me,” he doesn’t mean it literally — he’s talking about the whole planet.
26: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:06:30.23 0.net
>>21 got the answer right.
54: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:19:02.39 0.net
“I’ve still got quite a way to go / I’ve waited for you since the distant past / I believe I’ll meet you in this world / So I wait for you.”
The meaning is: this incomplete man has existed since times of ancient past, being reincarnated time and time again, while he’s waited for the appearance of that one last missing piece to finally complete him — “you.“
31: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:10:22.33 0.net
Man, if only one day I could write lyrics like that; lyrics of which there are as many interpretations as there are listeners.
32: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:11:07.82 0.net
I was worried sick when I first heard Toki Sora and thought I was listening to Tsunku’s last will.
34: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:12:06.99 0.net
There’s not a soul in this thread who could tell me the meaning of “sexy biscuit.”
39: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:12:59.05 0.net
The explanation to that is well-known already.
43: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:14:03.57 0.net
I don’t know it. What is it?
48: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:15:51.42 0.net
1: 名無し募集中。。。 2006/07/01(土) 08:30:04.09 0
Aside from the meaning the word “biscuit” has in Japan (as in cookie), there’s also something called bisque dolls. (That’s how it was originally written, but it’s also sometimes written as “biscuit.”)
Bisque dolls are those famous porcelain dolls. They have an extensive history if you want to look it up, but one of the biggest motifs behind bisque dolls is the well-known story of Cupid. In short, “iroppoi cupid” and “iroppoi bisque” just go together well in contrast to each other. And as I’m sure you already know, Cupid of course is the god of love in Roman mythology.
5: 名無し募集中。。。。 2006/07/01(土) 08:31:48.52 0
The contrast of Cupid and Bisque makes you think about the image of porcelain bisque: pure, white, unstained, but also easy to break, as well as fleeting — just like the transience of a love experienced in puberty.
12: 名無し募集中。。。 2006/07/01(土) 08:35:52.56 0
Knowledge that is necessary to possess to understand just this one bit of lyric in Iroppoi Jirettai:
– Roman mythology
– European ceramics
– Minor details of the English language
– Art trends of 18th and 19th century Europe
I’ve been looking into the lyrics of this song for a good year. Now I finally get the meaning.
50: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:17:35.22 0.net
Tsunku♂-san is a genius. What a learned man.
51: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:17:41.39 0.net
Wow. To think that Tsunku thought about it all that deeply.
55: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:20:25.15 0.net
He didn’t. (laughs)
47: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:15:49.68 0.net
Oheso no Kuni Kara Konnichiwa (“hello from the land of belly buttons.”)
56: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:20:43.45 0.net
The center of the world. Like the saying “center of Asia.” Not just geographically the center, but psychologically the center. Like that drama, “Sekai no Chuushin de Ai wo Sakebu” (“crying out love in the center of the world“).
64: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:27:10.31 0.net
I see. Thank you.
109: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:57:41.61 0.net
What is the world of belly buttons?
118: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 02:01:25.05 0.net
114: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 01:59:01.29 0.net
I took it to mean how we’re all born from the womb. They point to it in the choreography, too.
115: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 02:00:17.93 0.net
So it’s actually a song about birth?
127: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 02:20:46.51 0.net
Whenever you see threads like this, it’s always pretty much the same songs being discussed. It’s proof that, at the end of the day, H!P really doesn’t have all that many lyrics that are truly very cryptic.
128: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 02:23:10.15 0.net
Please tell me the meaning of “harisakesou na kurai atama ga naname” (“my head is so tilted, it feels like it’s going to burst“) from Munasawagi Scarlet, and “Ikebukuro sugitatte kono ai wa eien” (“though we might pass Ikebukuro, this love is eternal“) from Special Generation. With the former, I kinda-sorta get the nuance, but why is her head tilted? And as for the latter, again I get the message, but why Ikebukuro of all places?
132: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 02:33:14.09 0.net
Tilted = not level (stable) = unstable.
As for Ikebukuro, it’s not that Ikebukuro itself is of any importance. “Though we might pass Ikebukuro” = “though we’re riding the train.” It indicates their location. Then the lyric “kinou yori mo, ima yori mo” (“more than yesterday, more than today“) = “even after a million years.” It indicates time. In other words, the meaning is that “no matter how much time passes, no matter where we might be, this love will be eternal and unwavering.“
144: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 03:10:42.84 0.net
On the JR Yamanote Line, Shibuya, Harajuku and Shinjuku are known for being areas with a lot of young people. But when you pass Ikebukuro, you get to Otsuka — a place with a lot of older folks — before arriving at Sugamo. In other words, the lyric is saying that this love will last from generation to generation.
146: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 03:13:35.13 0.net
That’s interesting. And that actually fits in with the context of the rest of the lyrics.
157: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/05/20(火) 06:40:56.79 0.net
I live in Shin Otsuka and this makes so much sense. So that was the real meaning of this lyric.
6. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年05月22日 11:59 ID:3JTytlcX0
And here I was, thinking all this time he used Cupid and Bisque just because those two words rhyme well. Reading that explanation, my appreciation of Teranya is higher than ever.
2. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年05月22日 10:52 ID:OfxCkLLf0
What’s the “seventh heaven” mentioned in “Kanashiki Heaven”?
5. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年05月22日 11:32 ID:Eg9IqCYI0
Google says that seventh heaven is the highest level of Heaven.
I don’t think Terada thinks about lyrics quite to the extent that some people say he does, but I do think he’s very knowledgeable about many things. Though he might be doing most of it unintentionally, there’s often deeper meanings you can find in the wordplay of his lyrics. Still, though, I do think the wota who read too much into his lyrics are pretty incredible.
4. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年05月22日 10:55 ID:YXLhFlVg0
Lyrics are abstract creations. There’s no point in trying to make them into something more tangible.
7. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年05月22日 12:07 ID:DZiVlkWp0
“Renai tte yume no otoshiana” (“love is the pitfall of dreams“) from LOVE Machine. It sounds nice and all, but I don’t really understand the meaning.
9. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年05月22日 12:41 ID:7PBr003l0
Is it not about how you can be chasing after a dream of yours, but then love can suddenly throw you off-track, making you lose sight of what you were trying to achieve?
21. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年05月22日 16:39 ID:bfP.eqtG0
There’s so many lyrics here whose meanings I hadn’t even thought about before! I wouldn’t say Tsunku is a learned man or anything; I really feel he just thinks about stuff he figures other people don’t often think about. Then he puts those things into his songs looking all self-satisfied, going “let’s see if any of you guys can figure this one out!” It kinda pisses me off… but it’s so cute. (laughs)
18. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年05月22日 15:13 ID:oez9mm.S0
Some people prefer lyrics that only give you hints as to how you should interpret them; other people prefer lyrics that are very direct, almost like a clear explanation of what it is they’re saying. I feel like people coming from the outside (as in non-H!P wota) who complain about Tsunku’s lyrics not making any sense all come from the latter group of people.
14. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年05月22日 13:53 ID:NyFvzc4B0
If Terada really was thinking about all that when he wrote “sexy biscuit,” he’s a genius. And if he didn’t do so, if he only wrote that without all that much thought behind it? Well, then he’s a wizard.
What are the Tsunku♂ songs that really made you
feel like he’s someone exceptionally amazing?
1: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 03:10:56.82 0
I thought it was great how well Happy Daisakusen captured the feel of Musume as they are right now.
19: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 03:32:12.13 0
He’s made too many.
12: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 03:26:12.37 0
I don’t know why, but recently I find myself constantly humming Dounika Shite Doyoubi.
14: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 03:27:14.84 0
Special Generation and how it feels like it’s such an unstable song and yet somehow it works… I thought that was a great one. Lyrics and all.
90: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 09:26:03.78 O
It took around 10 years before that song finally started nearing perfection for me. (laughs) The first time I heard it, it just sounded so uncomfortable with those lyrics and music that were accompanied by such childlike voices, but recently I really enjoy it when they perform it. If Tsunku foresaw 10 years into the future when writing this song, he really is a genius.
17: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 03:31:02.42 0
I only just recently heard Fighting Pose wa Date ja nai and 21ji Made no Cinderella for the first time, and I was shocked to learn that the man can write songs that are so good.
48: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 05:01:29.79 0
Fighting Pose, 21ji Made no Cinderella and Gag 100 are all sheer madness.
49: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 05:03:17.04 0
The coolness of Fighting Pose’s bass lines…
99: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 09:44:45.37 0
Gag 100kai Bun Aishite Kudasai. This song isn’t the work of an average person.
18: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 03:31:29.01 0
Funwari Koibito 1nensei is cute.
23: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 03:34:58.47 0
There used to be a lot of songwriters on this board back in the days, and I remember how everyone agreed about Suki na Senpai sounding so fresh. It could be that its chord progression was the work of the arranger though.
27: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 03:37:06.48 0
I remember so well how much we were all talking about Suki na Senpai and Otoko Tomodachi those days.
30: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 03:39:44.45 0
Ame no Furanai Hoshi de wa Aisenai Darou. Always makes you want to cry.
51: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 05:08:06.45 0
Give a listen to Musume’s Samishii Hi and 21seiki and have yourself a good cry. Also, Berryz’ Sono Subete no Ai ni. They’re on YouTube.
35: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 03:57:00.58 0
Koi ING. What the hell — why not make it the national anthem already?
39: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 04:32:29.83 0
Dot Bikini. Only a madman could come up with “ka ka ka ka ka ka ka ka ka ka ka ka ka ka ka ka ka ka ka ka natsu bikini.”
42: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 04:41:24.32 0
That was originally all “natsu natsu natsu…” but the members jokingly read it as “ka ka ka…” just to kill some time when they were bored. Meanwhile, Tsunku was like “!”
102: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 09:52:40.10 0
Is that right? That’s the first time I’ve heard about this.
105: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 09:58:41.07 0
It’s kind of like when they were recording the “chou chou chou chou ii kanji” part of Koi Revo and Iida’s flubbed line of that bit was actually used in the finished song.
116: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 10:14:08.04 0
Happy Night, DaDiDuDeDoDaDi, Housekibako… Tsunku has used flubbed takes on finished songs a number of times.
184: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/27(月) 02:22:13.59 P
I thought Chou HAPPY Song was genuinely amazing.
198: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/27(月) 16:08:44.03 0
Agreed. It’s such a shame it didn’t make any bigger waves in the media.
43: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 04:42:14.66 0
Has to be Chou HAPPY Song. That was a pretty good trick he pulled.
55: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 05:16:43.75 0
There’s so many, but I find that he often does a great job with S/mileage’s katakana songs. Tachiagaaru, Choto Mate Kudasai!, Dot Bikini, Yattaruchan, Ee ka!?…
69: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 08:00:09.87 i
There’s this one lyrical phrase I happened to think about with the au thing the other day. Koko ni Iruzee’s “‘Nani ga shitai?’ to kiku keredo / Hanaseba bikkuri suru jan / Shiranai koto toka hajimeru to / Chou fuan na kao suru jan” (“You’re always asking me ‘what is it that you want to do?’ / But you’d be all shocked if I actually told you / When I try doing something you know nothing about / Your expression is super worried.“)
That’s something I look up to in some people — the courage to challenge new things no matter how much crap you might get for doing so.
72: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 08:32:24.59 O
I’ve always interpreted this as something that happens exclusively between young girls: when you start learning something new, or when you find a new hobby or something and you tell about it to your girl friends after the fact, some of them will give you a hard time about it, almost kind of making you feel bad about it. Just how amazing is Tsunku’s heart of a fair maiden?
107: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 10:01:34.78 0
Wow. For the first time I finally realize the meaning of that lyric.
5. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年01月30日 20:17 ID:.leu8QjP0
Everyone interprets lyrics their own way so I’m not trying to object to your interpretation, but I really don’t agree with it. If you take into consideration the rest of the lyrics, I think it’s very clear they’re about a kid in puberty who’s scared of announcing their future hopes to their parents, because he/she knows they’re just going to be all shocked to hear about it. Or when he/she starts doing something new in life all of a sudden, the parents will be all “is this kid okay…?“
It’s kind of funny to me how everyone’s always making fun of Kuduu’s pubertal silliness, and yet, it’s these kinds of lyrics you guys all love the most.
22. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年01月31日 02:19 ID:pqarzLmU0
Agreed. I, too, think the lyrics are about a middle or high school kid who’s afraid of the reaction from his/her parents.
I think the breadth of Tsunku’s lyrics is amazing. Many of them just strike you as silly at first, but when you look at each and every line individually, there’s so many bits in there that just make you think “how’d he even come up with this?” At the end of the day, I really think he might be a genius.
It’s like they say: the line between idiot and genius is paper-thin.
79: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 08:57:33.52 O
Of recent songs, maybe Ee ka!? I really don’t think anyone but Tsunku could write a song like that.
83: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 09:11:00.09 P
The first time I saw Oheso in concert, I was like “wow, it’s been a while since Tsunku last wrote a song this crazy.“
84: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 09:12:33.44 0
Happy Summer, Meccha Holiday, Monkey Dance, Dance de Bakoon, Choto Mate. I was speechless the first time I heard these.
89: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 09:22:01.70 O
Lately, Lalala no Pipipi and Rock to Teigi. The songs capture perfectly the essence of both Michishige and Tanaka, and there’s something about them that when those intros start playing, everyone at the venue just feels united.
97: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 09:34:41.76 0
aMa no Jaku. The word “love” doesn’t appear once in the lyrics, and yet, it’s so bittersweet…
151: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 16:51:15.43 0
Agreed. My favorite S/mileage song. The lyrics are great and they fit the melody really well. Actually, I don’t think those lyrics could fit any other melody.
108: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 10:03:26.02 0
Having Matenrou only as the secondary A-side, I don’t feel like H!P’s resources are anywhere near exhausted yet.
114: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 10:11:04.73 0
Inspiration. The funkiness of the verse and bridge, and the grandness of that chorus…
123: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 10:29:49.56 0
I know it’s a predictable choice, but Otome Pasta ni Kandou.
139: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 12:22:17.37 0
All that old recording footage on ASAYAN was really interesting.
162: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 19:35:23.50 0
VERY BEAUTY and the line “machi no naka mo ohana no nioi ga shiteru” (“Even the town smells of flowers“)… It’s so sweet and fairytale-like.
156: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 18:49:30.65 0
If we’re judging by lyrics, then Arigatou! Otomodachi or Sabori, songs like that. I can only say it was a job well done when I think about how it was some middle-aged dude writing those lyrics.
167: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 21:19:21.80 0
All the shuffle unit songs from 2000 to 2005. Especially all the color groups, Elegies, Sexy Otonajan, and Puripuri Pink. I want them to do those again — and I don’t mean SATOYAMA/SATOUMI.
179: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/27(月) 00:57:16.37 0
Help Me!! It’s an EDM song, but the beginning of the lyrics is just quintessential enka…
199: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/27(月) 16:18:43.55 0
Onna to Otoko no Lullaby Game. I was in shock the first time I heard this one.
263: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/29(水) 15:59:48.72 0
I think it’s amazing he decided to release Lullaby Game as a single.
202: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/27(月) 18:44:41.95 0
I think it’s incredible how he’s able to write lyrics that are so euphoric, like Haru Beautiful Everyday or Kiiroi Jitensha.
146: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 14:17:06.01 0
Kiss Me. I didn’t know it was possible for Tsunku to write a song this cool.
209: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/27(月) 22:40:47.71 0
Were songs like Kiss Me Aishiteru and Kanzen na Otona really written by Tsunku though?
218: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/27(月) 23:18:27.57 0
Well, hearing Terada’s demo vocal version of the latter didn’t feel off-putting at all at least.
223: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/28(火) 06:17:07.12 0
Terada’s version was even cooler than the released one. °C’s members just couldn’t sing the “kanze, n↑” bit quite like Tsunku.
212: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/27(月) 22:52:50.09 0
Tsunku♂’s songs have really interesting bass lines.
225: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/28(火) 07:02:17.91 0
At the end of the day, a big reason why I’m an H!P wota is the music. I simply don’t feel like moving on to any other idols.
14. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年01月30日 22:15 ID:ngf6AmXB0
At the end of the day… yeah. This. I just can’t get into anything else.
227: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/28(火) 07:32:40.69 O
Kioku no Meiro. Morning Musume today needs to cover this and release it as a single.
249: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/28(火) 23:38:32.66 0
The Jimi Hendrix chords in Dance de Bakoon are so damn prominent, I don’t think even THEE MICHELLE GUN ELEPHANT throws this many in one song.
250: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/28(火) 23:42:33.13 0
Tropica~l Koishite~ru. The first time I heard it, it just sent shockwaves running through my body. It really is thanks to this song that I’m where I’m at today.
255: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/29(水) 07:34:51.29 0
Guys… guys! You’re forgetting about We’re ALIVE.
278: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/30(木) 04:34:48.87 0
I can’t believe Ai no Sono hasn’t been mentioned yet.
2. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年01月30日 19:49 ID:APuR1QMd0
Itsumo to Onnaji Seifuku de. I don’t know why I started crying the first time I heard this song.
8. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年01月30日 20:35 ID:iJzaHQI10
I love how effortlessly he can put into words those daily life situations; the nonchalant, everyday scenes that are part of all our lives. I remember being especially surprised hearing Sekaiichi Happy, going all “YES! Exactly!” I love all those early Berryz songs, too.
9. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年01月30日 20:58 ID:2Tcuk6v20
Wakuteka really is amazing. I can’t help but think he was on something when he wrote it.
29. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年01月31日 11:29 ID:GE2DrgyNO
Wakuteka… I do think it’s a very elaborate song, but the members at the time really couldn’t sing it as well as they should’ve. When I heard Tsunku’s demo version of it, that’s when it finally clicked and I realized what he was going for — for the first time ever I could hear it for the cool song it is.
25. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年01月31日 03:45 ID:Paf3M.sf0
Manpower. I love listening to music from all over the world, but the thing about Manpower is: you can look and you can look but you simply can’t hear a song like it anywhere else in the world. It sounds like you may have, but if so, it must have been in a parallel universe somewhere.
Of recent songs, I really like the two new Berryz ones. I can’t help but feel amazed by Tsunku’s discerning ear when he handed Otona na no yo over to the arranger, feeling sure it would work. Sure, I understand what everyone here means when they’re saying you can’t underestimate the arrangers’ influence either, but I can’t help but think that Tsunku had a pretty clear vision of how that song would sound like the moment he wrote it.
19. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年01月30日 23:57 ID:Qeg7ggkj0
I was really, really surprised the first time I heard both Manpower and Massara. It was almost like culture shock.
36. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年04月20日 20:41 ID:z5HaQq8h0
Well, if I started listing songs I’d be going on all day. But every now and then there are some lyrics that just make chills run down my spine. I still remember the goosebumps when I heard “Nanchatte Renai” and I was going “these lyrics are about me…!” The essence of all thoughts had by middle and high school students that Tsunku managed to put in that song…
148: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/26(日) 15:34:57.96 0
The melody of VERY BEAUTY that perfectly portrays the feelings of a girl who’s just barely broken out of that “little girl” period of her life… The lyrics, too, are just overflowing with Tsunku’s love towards the members.
23. 名無しさん@ハロプロキャンバス 2014年01月31日 03:06 ID:IjVotWf50
People can talk about how his genius has run dry all they want, but the fact of the matter is that there is no producer out there like Terada.
Henkka: Thank you, Tsunku♂.
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