1: 乳首 2015/02/01(日) 18:42:13.07 0.net
Yes, all idol wota are gross, but which of these types is the grossest of them all? By the way, I’m personally into idols because I’m a lolicon, but I like H!P specifically because of their songs.
3: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:43:15.36 0.net
I have no objection to you receiving the grand prize on this.
2: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:43:00.92 0.net
The “true love” types just like their idols a little bit too much. Nothing wrong with that.
4: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:43:51.73 0.net
For me it’s the “producer” type.
31: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:17:28.24 0.net
How about the ones who just see them as sex objects?
10: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:47:38.67 0.net
I’m not sure what you call them… the “God” type? You know, the holier-than-thou know-it-alls. What the hell is up with those people?
5: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:44:12.90 0.net
The self-appointed critics.
9: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:46:32.89 0.net
You should’ve put “vs. lolicon” in the title, too.
11: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:58:05.05
All idol wota are lolicon.
14: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 18:54:26.89 0.net
The “true love” types are only staying true to their feelings, so I think they’re more honest as people. The other two are lying to themselves. With that said: all otaku are disgusting.
29: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:15:50.28 0.net
The “true love” types and “music fan” types get into arguments a lot because they have the exact opposite senses of values. Both of them think of the other as nothing but a piece of trash. But from the idols’ point of view, it’s the “true love” types who are more disgusting. In comparison, there’s probably no harm done to anyone from someone being the “parental” type.
34: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:20:09.87 0.net
I used to be the “true love” type, but ever since my oshi got married, I’ve now become more lukewarm towards all idols in general, only watching them from afar.
35: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:21:25.41 0.net
It’s different for men and women, too. I personally watch them only for the sex appeal by the way. Couldn’t care less about the singing or whatever.
39: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:29:55.59 0.net
The most disgusting types of them all are the guys who claim they just feel “parental love” towards their oshi, when in reality they’re actually busy rubbing one out to them.
38: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:28:59.09 0.net
The guys who imagine they have some chance of making their favorite idol belong to them, those are the ones who become the “true love” type. The ones who don’t, they become the “parental” type.
21. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 20:46 ID:VgbohYX90
I’m the “true love” type, and yet, I don’t think there’s any chance that I could ever make an idol “mine.” I perceive idols as people from another world, and simply thinking “XX-chan is so cute~!” or whatever is enough to make me happy. I don’t feel any need to try to make them “belong to me.”
Yep, I’m gross.
40: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:35:14.48 O.net
Um, the type who pretend like they know it all?
42: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:37:40.85 0.net
That’s just a variant of the “music fan” type.
44: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:39:23.78 O.net
No, the “pretending like they know it all” isn’t in regards to the music but the idols themselves.
41: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:36:38.18 0.net
It feels to me like the “parental” route is the way to go — many of those guys are even married. The other two lose by a wide margin. (laughs)
52: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 20:03:41.55 0.net
I’m a guy who actually wants to become like the H!P members. I’m okay with being appointed as the grossest type.
47: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:46:37.44 0.net
If I had to pick from these three… I’d say it’s the “music fan” type.
50: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:53:12.24 0.net
The sex appeal is invariably a part of it for each and every wota — it’s the whole essence of idols.
49: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:48:55.57 0.net
I don’t know which type I am…
53: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 20:08:14.64 0.net
Well, do you love them?
63: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 20:18:36.00 0.net
I’m not a lesbian, so no. And I don’t aspire to become like them either.
54: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 20:09:05.05 0.net
What is wrong with all of you guys claiming you feel some sort of “parental love” towards them? There’s not a chance in hell you wouldn’t date them if you ever got the opportunity.
66: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 20:20:32.85 0.net
They’re idols, so obviously it’s the sex appeal for me. There would be no idol industry without the sex.
62: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 20:15:39.55 0.net
It’s the “music fan” types who are the grossest of them all, the people on their high horses discussing the songs on Twitter or whatever.
69: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 20:31:03.84 0.net
“I’m a music wota! I judge their music on a neutral basis!” That attitude is so gross.
75: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 22:25:21.11 O.net
I fail to see why you’d find that attitude to be gross.
76: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 22:54:29.74 0.net
Well, I don’t know if it’s so much “gross” as it is just fucking irritating.
82: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/02(月) 00:03:56.00 O.net
Really? For me it isn’t even irritating. I guess I might be unconsciously pissing off people when I’m talking about their music…
73: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 22:24:13.36 O.net
All three apply to me.
81: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 23:36:25.29 0.net
I guess I’m the “music fan” type. I can’t believe °C actually has fans, what with all their songs being so shitty.
86: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/02(月) 00:26:05.01 0.net
I’m the “music fan” type, too, but for me °C was easily the best group last year, music-wise. Berryz and S/mileage, though, had it so bad I almost feel sorry for them.
88: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/02(月) 02:56:16.92 0.net
I understand the “music fan” types who just regard the songs highly, but what I don’t get are the ones who say that nothing besides the music matters. That just makes me think those people don’t even like idols in the first place.
93: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/02(月) 05:26:30.22 0.net
Is there something wrong with not liking idols?
91: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/02(月) 05:12:48.59 0.net
I don’t mind the “producer” type, but when it gets to the point where you actually start preaching to the idols about something or the other, whether it be at a handshake event, on the internet, or even indirectly, that’s when it becomes nothing short of an illness. It’s obvious to everyone besides them that these people are just sick.
92: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/02(月) 05:25:13.36 0.net
They’re all gross, but the “music fan” type is maybe just a tiny bit less so than the other two.
33: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/01(日) 19:19:54.73 O.net
The grossest are the ones who excessively deify them.
95: 名無し募集中。。。 2015/02/02(月) 05:56:35.07 0.net
The overall victory on this one goes to the ones who are truly romantically in love with a child.
1. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:16 ID:DHSOGIs10
I can’t help but be the “producer” type, and I even gross myself out for it. But if I was to stop thinking about idols “logically” like I do, I think that’d significantly lessen my overall fascination with them in general. Having all those painfully stupid conversations is part of what makes the idol culture for me. If we lost this aspect, I think many people would drift away from the fandom, and idols in general — as a genre — simply wouldn’t be able to sustain any real level of popularity. H!P especially wouldn’t be nearly as talked about anymore.
3. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:38 ID:2i3zwMAO0
Hardly anyone ever calls the girl wota gross, so this thread isn’t about them. Anyway, for me the grossest wota are the ones who suddenly start going on about how many years they’ve been a wota for when no one even asked them.
5. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:42 ID:nihlLTOB0
I’m the “wants to become Momochi” type.
7. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:48 ID:.Zdc5qD50
The grossest one is the “skill-obsessed” type.
6. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:43 ID:Ei9iWY910
I can kind of understand where all these different types are coming from. I get most of them. The only one I’m unable to comprehend is the “parental” type. (laughs)
2. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:24 ID:likbvWdE0
I can’t help but think of the “parental” thing as nothing more than a convenient word for all the lolicon to hide behind… (laughs)
8. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:49 ID:ltR9iVpTO
Up until recently I could never really grasp the “parental” type either, but now with the advent of Uta-chan, it feels like I might’ve finally gotten it. In short:
“I want to lick her all over” = lolicon
“I want to give her pocket money” = “parental” type
That’s basically the difference, isn’t it?
10. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:52 ID:2bs.K3RmO
For me it feels like I’m cheering on my favorite baseball team.
11. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:52 ID:KbrlALlb0
I would’ve wanted all H!P wota to be the “true love” type…
13. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 15:17 ID:1oVv9JiU0
I enjoy looking at cute girls and getting fired-up at their events. Which genre do I belong in?
9. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 14:50 ID:KbrlALlb0
Question to the non-“music fan” types… do you really not care about the songs at all?
14. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 15:49 ID:z5aeAj250
I’m a guy, but I genuinely want to become Sayumi. (Not that I want to become a woman — I just respect her as a person.) So that bit about her “strange fans” in her graduation speech was a huge compliment for me. (laughs) I think many H!P wota might actually be the “wanting to become like the members” type (or “projecting your dreams onto them” type).
15. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 16:07 ID:JqopDlPL0
I’m a guy and I do admire them. I’m sorry.
17. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 18:13 ID:FYHYwFaV0
The grossest wota are the ones who start attacking the members just because their hairstyles or sales numbers don’t look quite like what they’d hoped for.
30. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月15日 00:21 ID:nNjcQjfd0
Yes, it’s true that the members of H!P are cute. Still, I would’ve never come to like them this much if it wasn’t for the music, nor would I have remained a fan for this long.
22. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 21:39 ID:J.lB9ELV0
I’m as genuine of an idol wota as one can be. I love 80’s idols, and I think it’s only with the help of thoughtful, original music and lyrics that idols begin to shine — and for me, H!P is the one group who still follows this school of thought, what with Tsunku’s careful compositions and the members’ complete dedication to high-level dancing.
I’m a female so I don’t see them as sex objects, nor am I in love with them. Still, I think I’m probably quite gross.
18. 名無しプロジェクト 2015年02月12日 19:13 ID:5bQB7PCa0
I initially became a fan because I liked the music, but I then fell in love with Kamei, and later when she graduated I became a DD and turned into the “parental” type. So from my point of view, none of these fan types are gross. Idols offer a little bit of everything for everyone — there’s a place for all kinds of fans. There’s no reason why anyone should have to limit themselves to enjoying idols in only this or that way.
Henkka: I will say one thing: the grosser the wota get, the more fun I have translating their words. And that, unfortunately, probably says more than I’d want it to say about my own grossness.